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Old 08-29-2004, 12:58 PM   #1
Runaway987
Dumb way to humanely kill rodents.

Forgive me if this is just dumb...


Could you inject a rodent in a vein with some air to just stop it in its tracks like blood clots can do to humans? How about chemicals? Or water?

Another thing i was wondering about was microwave, i know that sounds really brutal but as far as my understanding goes the Radiation would knock it dead in seconds...

How about electrocution?


I just thought maybe these would be more humane/painfree than being slapped against a wall in a football sock.
 
Old 08-29-2004, 02:12 PM   #2
surfrkidTS
hmmm, i dunno if microwave would be humane.... or injecting it. It would be easier to freeze it or Co2 it.
 
Old 08-29-2004, 02:12 PM   #3
Jicin
Nasty as it is, it *does* kill instantly.

Don't use chemicals. Imagine what that does to your snake when he eats them o.O Probably die the same death. You can use a microwave. May i recommend you only do that when the microwave needs cleaning You might want to feed the snake with a spoon afterwards The electrocution? That must be a awefully painfull death. A few seconds of excrusiating pain. I don't know if the snake can eat it afterwards.

I've heard some members make notion of some sort of gass that quickly nocks them out yet isn't harmfull to the snake. Try the search feature. Otherwise i'd wish i knew the awnser to your question :/
 
Old 08-29-2004, 02:35 PM   #4
Cornfan
CO2 is the gas used by many rodent farms which dissipates within hours to ensure a safe meal for your snake. Freezing, however, is an horrifically slow and painful way to die...
 
Old 08-30-2004, 07:39 AM   #6
Runaway987
Cool sites cheers...


Can i get anymore opinions on microwaving? I tried it on a cricket in a tub and he leapt into the air and was dead when he landed...

Whole thing took about 2 seconds.
 
Old 08-30-2004, 11:33 AM   #7
surfrkidTS
LOL, i think microwaving a rodent could be very different then microwaving a bug. Mice have a nasty habit of exploding in the microwave, and i don't know how long it would take for them to die. It might be possible that by the time they died they would be cooked!
 
Old 08-30-2004, 02:01 PM   #8
Runaway987
Erm yeah that is a bit rank....
 
Old 09-02-2004, 11:21 AM   #9
Sabbas
microwaves cause water molecules to excite... if they are in an enclosed area (like a body) they would most certainly run the risk of explosion. The cricket (along with most other insects) don't contain anywhere near the amount of water that a rodent would have.

- just an explination on why some things go *pop* while others do not.
 
Old 09-02-2004, 06:30 PM   #10
Taceas
You ever noticed when you're nuking a piece of pizza how the edges tend to get really really hot before the middle? I can just imagine a mouse with his extremeties literally boiling before death.

That is definitely something I would NOT recommend, and if done I would consider calling the humane society, ASPCA, or whoever else and have that person seriously looked into for animal cruelty. I'm not a PETA freak, I just don't like seeing animals suffer needlessly, and a microwave would surely be torture.

Injecting isn't feasible either. Most people do not possess the smallest of needles capable of injecting an air bubble or poison into the veins of a rodent. And more than likely you'd end up hurting the animal rather than killing it. And with poison, whatever you kill the rodent with will be digested by the snake and potentially kill it too.

For me, I simply deliver a quick flick/whack to the head and all is done in an instant. CO2 is acceptable and is veterinarian approved and humane society approved the last time I looked as a humane way to euthanize animals.

What exactly are you trying to accomplish? Euthanizing feeder rodents for a snake? Or shock value and coolness?

For pinks and fuzzies, I just freeze them. Flicking or whacking creates an unnecessary mess. It's only a few minutes before they expire. Suffocating is difficult in that small of a mouse because they're built to tolerate a small amount of asphyxiation. All of their litter mates and bedding material would kill them if they weren't.

But for crawlers up to adults, I simply deliver one flick to the head, place them in a lidded container (as they'll hop and jerk and fall on the floor if you don't) and then once they're dead, I bag them up for freezing.

The last time I tried the wall trick, all I ended up with was a still alive mouse who's bones were broke and re-arranged. Not pleasant.

And if you're curious about how hard to flick, my goal is to flick hard enough to cause a grape to crack open.

Nifty science experiment my husband found:
And speaking of grapes and microwaves and the like...take a grape, cut it in half lengthways and place them halves wet side down and make the stem hole end touch so they look like OO and nuke em. Fun stuff. =P
 

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