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New baby! Morph id help please!
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grankin01
Addict and proud of it!
Creamsicle is a hybrid, not a pure corn, so if that's what it was listed as that's what it is.
I agree. To elaborate a Creamsicle is a hybrid bred from an amel corn and an emoryi's (did I spell that right) rat snake. This is done completely on purpose and mislabeling probably isn't going to happen (provided the breeder is at least somewhat organized
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DMong
colubrid connoisseur
It also looks motley; that would explain the absence of checkers on the belly
Yes, and also the muted side blotching too. As to it not having ANY percentage of emoryi in it's genetic background nobody knows at all. But going solely by it's outward looking phenotype, I would say no "visible" emoryi geneflow is obvious at all in that particular specimen.
It does seem to be a low-expression amel motley.
~Doug
uhhlxxiss
New member
Thanks. The man that I got him from listed them as creamsicle, but I don't think he quite understood that creamsicle is not a morph coloring but a hybrid. He also had candy canes for sale that I believe came from the same clutch of eggs...would it be possible to have the candy canes and mine to all come from the same parents? I'm really not good with genetics yet, but then wouldn't that mean that mine would definitley not be a creamsicle and in fact just be an amel motley?
DMong
colubrid connoisseur
Well, without actually "seeing" what this person was calling canycanes, it is impossible to say. Their rendition of what things are and what they want to call things can often be COMPLETELY different things than what they actually are..LOL!.
But no, the person cannot really have true amel "Miami" corns(candy canes) and creamsicles coming out of the same clutch with emoyi lineage. What he wants to label them as are of course two VERY different things.
That said, there was a VERY well-known corn breeder that decades ago did introduce emoryi into their canycanes to try to lighten them up a bit more. Thre is simply no reversing what has been done over all this time, and all anyone can do is go from there with what they do, or go catch their own wild snakes if they want absolutely 100% genuine authentic P. guttatus with absolutely nothing else ever being added to the "recipe"..LOL!.
Back then things were very much in their infancy and very different with genetic experimentation. Now days crossing stuff is absolutely RAMPANT and everywhere!!.
~Doug