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Anti-gun blather in the local newspaper

Rich Z

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Stop the insanity: Ban guns

Gerald Ensley, Tallahassee Democrat 11:42 a.m. EST November 23, 2014

It's the guns, stupid.

The shootings Thursday at the Florida State University library. The shootings Saturday in a northwest Tallahassee neighborhood. The shootings at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Connecticut. The shooting of Arizona U.S. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords. The shootings at Virginia Tech. The 10,000 senseless shooting deaths that happen every year in this country.

Take away guns and they don't happen.

How is it that the supposed greatest nation on earth refuses to stop the unholy availability of guns?

I'm not talking about gun control. I'm not talking about waiting periods and background checks.

I'm talking about flat-out banning the possession of handguns and assault rifles by individual citizens. I'm talking about repealing or amending the Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution.

The Second Amendment has been misinterpreted. It says guns are permitted to a "well-regulated militia." That means trained citizen soldiers called into action for emergencies — because in colonial times every able-bodied man was required to be a member of the militia. It does not mean everyone with $50 and a driver's license is entitled to own a gun.

That's what former Supreme Court Chief Justice Warren Burger said in 1990, when he called claims of Second Amendment protection of individual gun ownership, "a fraud on the American public." Earlier this year, retired Supreme Court Justice John Paul Stevens called the Second Amendment one of the six great flaws with the U.S. Constitution. He called for it to be amended to say gun possession was only for state militias, not individuals.

Every legal opinion for 200 years denied individual gun ownership was a right — until the steady lobbying of the National Rifle Association created a climate that allowed a conservative U.S. Supreme Court in 2008 to strike down a handgun ban in the District of Columbia, and fuel the sense of entitlement of gun owners.

Gun supporters say, "It's not guns that cause gun violence, it's mentally ill people with guns; fix the mentally ill." Even if those same people did not oppose government spending on the mentally ill — which they have for decades — there is no predicting when mental illness will express itself in violence.

All of those who knew FSU library shooter Myron May called him the "last person" from whom they would have expected violence. They all knew he was mentally troubled. But they said he didn't even like guns.

You can't prevent mental illness. You can prevent humans from having easy access to tools they can use to harm other people.

Talk about mental illness: The United States is insane about guns. We lead the world in gun ownership, with almost one per capita. That's twice the percentage of the next closest country.

The United States doesn't lead the world in gun violence. Just the civilized world.

According to a United Nations survey, the United States annually averages 3 firearm homicides per 100,000 population. Fourteen countries topped that figure — but they were almost exclusively Third World countries.

Among the 24 most affluent nations of the world, the U.S. is the far and away leader in gun homicides. None of the other 23 affluent nations has a rate above 1 firearm death per 100,000 population.

Gun freaks insist we need to arm more people. They glibly say shooting sprees happen in "gun free zones," like schools and universities, where gunmen could be stopped if everyone had a gun. That theory is absurd.

Police and military train for years to use a gun competently in stressful situations – and even they don't always respond correctly. Think Ferguson, Mo. Think Charlotte, N.C. Think New York City in 2012 where two cops shot nine bystanders as they wildly tried to shoot a man who had gunned down a co-worker.

The idea of 500 students in a college library or a dozen teachers in an elementary school pulling out guns to shoot a gunman is ludicrous. They would wind up shooting each other.

Gun freaks say if you take away their guns only outlaws will have guns. That's a chance worth taking. Because if we ban guns, eventually the tide will turn. It might take 10 years or 20 years. Hell, it might take 50 years. But if we make it illegal to own a handgun, eventually there will be no handguns.

The same gun freaks believe in banning drugs. They believe in banning abortions. They recognize society bans certain things for the good of society. We should ban guns for the good of society.

People have romanticized guns. The Founding Fathers. The Old West. Self-defense — and never mind the average American has only a one in 250 chance of being the victim of a violent crime. It's all a delusion. Guns kill. They kill people from a distance. They kill strangers and children who have no relationship with the gunman.

Let the hunters keep their rifles and shotguns; those weapons are ineffective tools in a mass shooting. But we need to ban handguns and assault rifles for all but police and military.

This is an uphill battle. Despite daily front-page stories of shooting sprees and killings, Americans don't want to give up their guns. Over the past 10 years, the percentage of Americans who support stricter guns laws has dropped from 60 percent to 47 percent. In a recent survey, 73 percent of Americans oppose banning handguns.

But those of us who think widespread handgun ownership is insane need to keep speaking up. We need to teach our children handguns are wrong. We need to support any measure that limits their availability — and work to repeal the Second Amendment. We need to keep marching forward until someday this nation becomes civilized enough to ban guns.

One of the frequent refrains of gun freaks about President Obama is "He's coming for our guns." Obama never said such a thing. But I will:

We're coming for your guns. And someday, we'll take them.

Contact Gerald Ensley at 599-2310 or [email protected].

Source: http://www.tallahassee.com/story/op...y/2014/11/22/stop-insanity-ban-guns/19426029/

Connie read this this morning and she showed it to me. She was already hinting about dropping our subscription to the Tallahassee Democrat (she was thinking that maybe the coupons made it worthwhile keeping), but this was the last straw. We just do not want to use our money to help pay the salaries for these people who write this sort of blather.
 
When you cancel your subscription, be sure to tell them why.
You will not change their minds, but they will know their anti-gun position had a negative impact on their wallets.
 
When you cancel your subscription, be sure to tell them why.
You will not change their minds, but they will know their anti-gun position had a negative impact on their wallets.

Oh, they already know. I posted on the newspaper's website as a comment on that tripe, and the editor replied to my comment. Nearly all the comments made are right in line with my own thinking, so I'm sure they know they have kicked a hornet's nest now.
 
Rich didn't you know violating the rights of law abiding citizens ALWAYS fixes crime by lawbreakers. Ask any politician, they will tell you we just need a few more laws and a little less liberty and everything will be utopian. :headbang:
 
Yeah, Florida is the wrong state to try that BS...I love how pro gun rights Florida is.
 
I sent the newspaper an email a few minutes ago cancelling my subscription and requesting a refund of the balance I have prepaid. I told them exactly why I am cancelling.

On an even brighter note, one of the people commenting on Ensley's article stated that 90 percent of the staff there have already been laid off. Not sure if this is just referring to the Tallahassee Democrat or Gannett publications as a whole. So it appears that they are just swirling around the toilet bowl now anyway on the way to the BIG FLUSH.
 
Funny that the writer mentioned drug bans. They have worked SO well that we should try even more bans - not!
 
Right now there are 625 comments logged on that article and it looks like around 99.9 percent calling that guy Gerald Ensley a bonafide idiot. The newspaper this morning was soaked (the delivery guy apparently hasn't noticed that it's been raining cats and dogs and didn't put it in plastic) so I don't know if there was any followup published.
 
In a perfect world nobody would have guns. Unfortunately the world is far from perfect. And the scariest thing of all is the hypothetically well-armed "state militias" mentioned in the article. Imagine one of those forming and nobody else having any guns to keep it in check.
I live in FL and will be getting a nice .45 soon.
 
Fact of the matter is that the world just cannot be disarmed. Anyone with half way decent machining skills and access to machining tools can make a functioning gun with very little effort.

Heck, even if guns could be vanished, how hard is it to whip up a couple of molotov cocktails? The desire to commit murder cannot be stopped by just taking away one of the tools they will prefer to use. There will always be a Plan B.
 
And the article mentions that if we ban guns criminals will still have them but eventually it will " catch on". Yeah, right. In ten years criminals will realize that no one else has guns and decide that its not fair to have guns anymore and will throw theirs away.
 
And the article mentions that if we ban guns criminals will still have them but eventually it will " catch on". Yeah, right. In ten years criminals will realize that no one else has guns and decide that its not fair to have guns anymore and will throw theirs away.

The scary thing is that apparently there are people on this earth that are that totally delusional. The chances of them realizing the complete idiocy of such beliefs, unfortunately, are extremely slim.

You do have to wonder what it is like to live in a mind like that, though.
 
:laugh: Now this is really funny. The Tallahassee Democrat deleted my comment I placed this morning about my subscription cancellation obviously having been accepted since I did not get a newspaper this morning.

So much about their professed stance concerning the First Amendment. I guess that only applies to people who are willing to align lock step with their own views.

Which, to be honest, is not at all a surprise.
 
And people never seem to think of the reality of banning guns besides armed criminals/unarmed populace. Only those sprinkled with the magic fairy dust of government authority will be armed -which is a police state. I seem to be meeting more and more socially liberal and fiscally conservative people out there, maybe the Libertarian party will eventually catch on and find some legitimacy.
 
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Heck, even if guns could be vanished, how hard is it to whip up a couple of molotov cocktails? The desire to commit murder cannot be stopped by just taking away one of the tools they will prefer to use. There will always be a Plan B.

Exactly.

The worst shooting in the last 60 years was VA Tech, he killed 32.

Tim McVeigh killed 168 and injured 680 with diesel fuel, fertilizer, and truck.
 
In a few more years, 3D printing will change our world at least as much as computers and smart phones have. The gov't may TRY to ban printouts of guns - and anything they deem unacceptable - but again, that only works for the law abiding citizens. Once 3D printers are cheap, accessible, and plans for everything are plentiful, gun bans will be much more of a joke than it would be now.
 
In a few more years, 3D printing will change our world at least as much as computers and smart phones have. The gov't may TRY to ban printouts of guns - and anything they deem unacceptable - but again, that only works for the law abiding citizens. Once 3D printers are cheap, accessible, and plans for everything are plentiful, gun bans will be much more of a joke than it would be now.

Heck, right now, today, anyone with modest machining skills and a decent lathe and milling machine can make a working smooth bore single shot gun with very little effort. So that at had been out of it's bag for a LONG time.
 
Not to mention, for every American man, woman and child there are already .9 guns. If firearms were banned, I wouldn't surrender my property, and I'm a law-abiding guy. Gerald is surely well-meaning, but he isn't living in the real world. There would be a civil war if that was attempted. Restricting what you can legally own is the only route there is for those that want only the government to have guns. The best thing we can do is introduce people to firearms in a positive light. I love to take new people shooting, and never miss a chance to take a kid. I don't expect to make people shooting enthusiasts or snake lovers, but I like to think I can influence some people's general attitudes. The future of legal firearm ownership in America depends on voting and court decisions. California recently passed some mind-numbing regulations.
 
I consider myself to be fiercely liberal, so liberal as a matter of fact that I consider every available option in the pantheon of American politics too conservative (and generally full of crap).
That being said the situation in America is super delicate. The whole police state thing Chip is talking about is a scary prospect that really isn't very far off from the sanctioned system that is a reality today. The government of this country is definitely very scared of people that actually think. That's why they try to feed everyone a line. Gun control would effectively castrate any kind of nightmare revolt situation for people in power.

OK my little rant for the day
 
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