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Just wanted to vent a little! I've noticed a drastic decline in people posting here. I guess everyone has migrated to Farcebook. :(

I do have a Farcebook account, but don't like the site, and rarely post. I only joined to keep up with news from my nieces and nephews, and their kids. I liked coming here, back in the days when so many people were actively posting.

Oh well, things do change, but not always for the better.

Kathy

I'm still here...

Facebook- I can't even. Posts get buried. There are so many "know it alls" and no one to rein them in. Some "expert" was trying to tell me my peppermint tessera was a snow, and couldn't comprehend that there was no way Carol could have "misidentified" cinder genes.

Whatever. Make Cornsnakes Great Again!!

Message boards like this are so much better than Facebook for what most of us need it for... thoughtful and friendly discussion, and searchable history, etc. that allows us to be better caretakers of our animals. Facebook is only good for "look at this" posts that will only reach a few people who happen to see it before it scrolls away.

This site was booming for years, followed by a bust during the economic downturn of 2008 when so many of the industry innovators and stalwarts, including Rich Z., our site owner, retired from the profession and stopped actively breeding and participating.

We still have wonderful people here, but it's certainly quiet. I don't think FB is the culprit, since it's basically useless for asking and answering questions, or having a meaningful conversation.

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I audibly sighed at that conversation multiple times. :nope: I have some stories I would share about certain vocal people, but I'm not in the market for making enemies just yet.

Anyway, I certainly make my share of foot-in-mouth posts on FB so maybe I'm a little glad they get buried in the rubble. :laugh: :face_palm_02:

Kathy,

I haven't been the most active in the past... 6 or 7 years, so I can't really talk, but I get you! It used to be a morning ritual to sit at my computer with a nice cup of coffee and brows the forums. I loved Saturday because I could read for HOURS!

Loved the community here! It's hard for me to completely switch to FB as well. Also it's very nice to see people here from long ago even though I'm guilty of ghosting myself.

Anyway just wanted to say hi!

Well the fate of this site is in your hands. Literally....

I've been trying to encouraging folks to use this forum over FB. I keep forgetting you have to be logged in to see most posts though, so I'll link a post and no one sees it because they can't be bothered to make an account. :rolleyes: I've thought about cross posting some of my stuff to other forums but most are so ridiculously dead or poorly organized it's like why bother? I'm extremely pissed that the "other" forum even existed considering everything that was posted there that WASN'T posted here is now gone forever. Ugh!

It's like it across the board, I'm afraid.
I've been doing a tour of lots of sites I've used. Most if not all seem to be in decline.
And some no longer exist.

Hmm, I forgot about that myself. I sometimes will shut down viewing of thread content on my forum sites in an effort to shake loose Chinese web spiders that seem to latch on and never let go unless you shake them off. And I just forgot to change that back here. :face_palm_02:

In any event, it has not been changed back, so non-registered viewers can now view the content of threads. Other functions (such as viewing images and searching) are still disabled, since that imposes an unnecessary burden on the server that I feel I can do without.

I have to admit my reason for joining the forum was purely to find out who was raising the color morphs I'm interested in breeding. After searching through many posts it became obvious that long term friendships have developed through the forum. It's refreshing to be able to share our triumphs and even disasters with those who know about, and care about Corn snakes. Thanks Rich Z.

I'm still here. My input has dropped off a bit lately, but I'm not going anywhere. I'm also re-upping when my "Contributor" comes due. Keeping this site alive is well worth the effort.

I find this site really helpful so I would like to say a big thank you
I am a 61 years Young new corn snake owner
I will use it a lot
So can I say hi to you all
Pat


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I'm always lurking In this site from my app :)


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Please keep this site going
I thought about going to Facebook but no
If I need to get some advice this is the site for so I can look after my 4 months old amel corn snake


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While you are on what age should I put my 4 months old corn go in his big viv
He/she is about 27g and 21 inches long
Can anyone help


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The trick is to use lots of hides and cover.
As long as it thinks its hidden from predators, everything will be fine.

Ok thank you


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Well, I'm glad some people are still hanging out here. Even if just lurking, something brings them back.

I've seen so many people move to Farcebook, and I don't get the appeal. I have little interest for it to begin with, and the few posts I may actually want to see, are buried under all the "look what I had for lunch" posts.

I certainly hope there is enough interest to keep the site up. I just renewed my contribution, so I'm here for another year. I hope others feel the same! :welcome_back_01:

Kathy

Myself I think go to the place where people know what they are talking about and get the right advice
That's right here
Pat


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Many of the old old photos are gone anyway, having been hosted on tinypic, photobucket, and other such unreliable hosts. It's understandable with how many hits this forum likely gets while visible to keep images member-only. There's plenty of text goodies to be found in the rich history of this board. The pictures are just icing on the cake, and if people REALLY want to see them they'll take 2 seconds to sign up.

That SHOULD read "it has NOW been changed back"....

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I got what you meant. ;)

The above quote kind of has been coming to mind lately, I guess what you are telling me is that you will be pissed at me too if I have to let this site go because everyone abandoned it. Quite frankly, that other site most certainly faced what this site is facing now, which is simply a lack of participation from the membership. So they were expected to just keep the site running, regardless of the fact that people had just stopped using it? What were their alternatives?

And in like vein, what do you all expect from me considering the projected future of this site? Take a look at the stats page I will attach below showing the statistics for posts made per month from January, 2010 thru January, 2017. The PEAK for this site was actually between 2009 and 2010, by the way. But if you were in my shoes what would you predict the situation will be like here 5 years from today? And what would YOU do about it?

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Well, I guess it is in our hands, as you said earlier. Time will tell, I suppose.

Kathy

Hey Rich, I would hate to see it go, but I respect the position you are in.

If and when you decide to shut it down, just please give folks some warning so they can save/print some of the stickies and their progression threads, etc.

I'll second that, I'm just a new member but this place is an awesome resource and I'd be sad to see it go as well. Guess I oughta step up and post some more pics of my kiddo. 🐍

I can't say I know much about BB, but surely there must be some way to transfer an archive of the forums. I would happily host a searchable archive to preserve the history recorded here. Obviously some things are already lost, with the very oldest attachments having gone missing and dead links galore, but there are some things here which I doubt are recorded anywhere else. I suppose it's not wholly necessary to keep that history, but I know I've learned a lot from it.

FYI, I will be taking a look at the forums on this site and any that are unused for a substantial period of time will be eliminated to cut down on the clutter and streamline the site somewhat. Ones that are only lightly used may be merged together. On the chopping block are the HELL forum as well as the DYK section, among some others. If they are not being used, then no sense wasting space on them. Which goes for this entire site, eventually, of course.

I guess people just prefer to be assimilated by the FaceBorg. Way it goes, I guess. It is what it is.

I'd say do what you must to streamline this forum. The CS.Com guide to cultivars can be merged with the cultivars forum, the photography techniques can be merged with miscellaneous, and FAQ forum is seldom read by newbies anyway and can be merged with the general forum if there are questions that arise. The Hell forum I don't need as my wife can give me that option.

^ I agree with Twolunger's suggestions.

The pet rat form I was on closed down for FB- I hate the facebook for forum style things
The lack of search and the willingness of people to break the rules

The new Animals selling ban on FB might drive traffic back.

First I heard of that. FB banned selling animals there? Yeah, that will come as a blow to some people, I would expect.

Yeah, seems real to me....

Source: https://www.facebook.com/policies/co...c_location=ufi

I imagine this will knock the feet out from under a lot of people who have been using their FaceBook pages to sell their animals.

I think so far it is just enforced on Facebook Marketplace. I wonder if they even consider snakes as animals???

I've seen rescue groups bring up the animal sale ban and are reporting all animal sales they see, primarily in relation to dogs/puppies, etc, but many have the AR mentality, and I don't expect them to leave other animal groups alone.

Well, if it were me, and my entire business revolved around selling animals on FaceBook, I think I would be pretty darn concerned about it. From what I have seen, FaceBook will yank pages without warning and without offering any recourse. Lord knows I have had to yank some pages myself from people engaging in trademark infringement over there.

I removed a couple of forums that were unused, and am still looking at a couple of others. The following are on the chopping block:

Photography Techniques and Equipment
Other Animals and Related Items Wanted

Of course, with only seven (7) posts made on this entire site in the past 24 hours, perhaps I am just trying to weatherproof the deck chairs on the Titanic. :shrugs:

I'm really sad to hear this.

For the record I've had a busy spring and haven't been on Facebook much either. This is still the best corn snake community in the world.

I know im a New guy but i like this forum, i do think facebook is a Bad idea as it takes over everythink i dont use facebook. and im 24 :)

I'm new to this site and live it so far so I hope it doesn't die out!


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