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Ilikebugs666 04-10-2021 03:19 PM

New owner/morph question
 
Hey there.
Iím a newer owner, having my corn snake Sorin for a little over 4 months now. Heís extremely easy going, loves to climb me like a tree, eats and sheds perfectly, etc.
I was just trying to specifically figure out what his morph really is.
His mother was a rescue at the pet store (not a Petco/Petsmart) but a local store specializing in reptiles, arachnids, and all the creepy crawlies) and the identified her as either a creamsicle or a sunglow.
I never saw his father personally or even a picture of him, but he was supposed to having ďexcitingĒ het genes.
The first 1/3 of his body has some bright orange which fades into your more classic het coloring I would guess.
Based on his coloring, does anyone have a more definitive guess? https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...42fa883a53.jpg


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hypnoctopus 04-10-2021 04:40 PM

He looks like a normal from this picture. Most corn snake genes are recessive, which means they need two copies of the gene for it be visible. So if the father had lots of hets, that means that your baby could be carrying some interesting genetics, but they won't change his appearance. If you wanted to figure out what genes (if any) he's carrying, you would need to breed him, ideally to a female (or multiple females) who are homozygous for a lot of genes. If the mother was a Creamsicle or sunglow, then he's at least het amel from her.

Ilikebugs666 04-10-2021 06:49 PM

Thanks for the clarification!
Iíve read up some on snake genetics and in theory I understand how they work, but I know itís more complex when trying to get specific morphs.

This is a picture of his mom.
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...4debfc706a.jpg

Is the orange coloring in him and the way it gradually fades out a regular corn snake color pattern or something to do with his gentics?
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...50f6a70cbb.jpg


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hypnoctopus 04-10-2021 08:58 PM

Most corn morphs have more intense coloration at the head end that fades toward the tail end. And his color will most likely change quite a bit as he grows up. This picture makes him look more like a hypo. Would love to see a belly picture.

Ilikebugs666 04-10-2021 09:40 PM

Yeah, I was told his color would change as he got older, and that heís one of the brighter ones of his clutch.
Heís about 9 months old and had just shed right before I got him, so heís only had 3 sheds with me, his 3rd being 2 days ago.
That picture was half a day or so after shedding.
Iíll get a belly pic tomorrow!


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hypnoctopus 04-10-2021 10:21 PM

Yeah, if he's already this bright, he'll probably be a gorgeous adult!

SnakeCreations 04-11-2021 12:49 PM

He's super cute, congrats!

-Tonya

Ilikebugs666 04-11-2021 03:31 PM

Alright here are a few pictures, belly and all.
Hopefully it helps a little more.
I took these by the window so itís natural lighting.
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...b45338d0e5.jpg
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...4d703f93f5.jpg
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...f477648da7.jpg
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...2d8556ac41.jpg


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hypnoctopus 04-11-2021 05:46 PM

Very nice! He looks like a masque to me, actually.

Ilikebugs666 04-11-2021 07:26 PM

Iíve never heard of that, but I googled and found itís a dominant gene.
The broken up patterns and color variation makes sense now.
What would I call his morph if explaining it to someone? I thought it was the basic creamsicle/het morph.
lol


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