As for the Caramels, the original normal colored female that the line came from was one in a batch of wild caughts that caught my eye because of that unusual coloration. The original intent was to breed amelanism into her to see what the amels would look like with that influence. So who knows? Could have always been more than one gene lurking in there. That particular area seemed to be a relative hotbed for odd genetic material in the corn snakes. From North Port down to Lehigh Acres and over to Pine Island on the west coast of Florida seemed like the Bermuda Triangle of genetic oddities for corns.
Cinder (I still like "Ashy"
) was another pure luck thing coming from a wild caught female from a guy who lived in the keys. No idea of any sort of exact location for it, however. But I said all I know about the origination here anyway ->
https://www.cornsnakes.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=145919