ultramel help

since ultra is not on the corncalc.. who can help me here..
what would pairing an ultramel anery het hypo diffused with a blood red het amel and charcoal get me? :|

Male: Ultramel Anery ( Ultramel, Anery ) het Diffused, Hypo

Female: Diffused het Amel, Charcoal

Phenotype:
1 / 8 Ultramel het Anery, Diffused 50% poss het. Charcoal, Hypo
1 / 8 Amel het Anery, Diffused 50% poss het. Charcoal, Hypo
1 / 4 Diffused het Anery, Amel or Ultra 50% poss het. Charcoal, Hypo
1 / 4 Normal het Anery, Diffused, Amel or Ultra 50% poss het. Charcoal, Hypo
1 / 8 Fire ( Amel, Diffused ) het Anery 50% poss het. Charcoal, Hypo
1 / 8 Diffused Ultramel ( Ultramel, Diffused ) het Anery 50% poss het. Charcoal, Hypo

Are you using this corn calculator ?
http://www.corncalc.com/

yeah i was.. of course i didnt pay attention and didnt see that its under amel.. woopsies. thanks!

Interesting side note is that any snake with ultra in it also has grey rat snake in its mix. Still, how many people know what percent grey rat their snake with the ultra gene has? Does it really matter? http://iansvivarium.com/morphs/ultra...19ce26259f33fd

Interesting side note is that any snake with ultra in it also has grey rat snake in its mix.

It's never been proven - it's just down to what you believe. The originator of the Ultra gene has never been able to give a definitive answer. Don S believes that it derives from Grey Rats but I think the last discussion here had Rich Z down as unconvinced.

... Post #192 from Rich Z here pretty much sums it up:
http://www.cornsnakes.com/forums/sho...=120832&page=5

And if you can face wading through some history, this is the oldest discussion about Ultra here, from 2004:
http://www.cornsnakes.com/forums/sho...ighlight=Ultra

Even back then, ithe origins of Ultra were nowhere near cut-and-dried.

He's only saying that because I said I didn't care ti breed my unknown hybrid snake cus I can't id the offspring properly and I didn't care to read his ramble on hybrids on my post..

Well I guess hybrids matter a lot to some people - as you can see from the links I posted, it's rarely a short discussion and there's never a consensus. Personally I like your approach.

I mean, percentages don't matter to me as long as you can at least state what species went into it.

But the snake in question has not been identified..atall.