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Husbandry and Basic Care General stuff about keeping and maintaining cornsnakes in captivity. |
So how fast do your corns digest their food?
04-17-2003, 10:06 PM
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88 IS TOO HOT FOR CORNS!
J Daniels, please listen up. I know you can jump start their metabolism for thereapy, but even 85 is the upper limit for full time temp. Years ago I kept mine too warm for quite some time b/c of regurge problems, etc. with the best of intentions (they do puke when too cold) and met a breeder of Okeetees (from Okeetee) who has become my mentor as far as husbandry is concerned. He actually has sold many of his to the Love's and other breeders (and me). The first thing he did was put a digital therm in my cage and say "86 is too hot for corns." 78 to 82 became my range, excluding a hot spot they could get out of.
The snakes (which I feared were dying) shaped up completely with no change except for that and bottled water.
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04-18-2003, 01:08 AM
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Hmm... not too sure I'm understanding what you're saying. My temps are: 90 degree hotspot under a hide using a UTH, and a 75 deg cool side near the water bowl. I think I heard somewhere that a 90 deg hotspot is very much needed by corns to reach a "fever" state when needed.
Temps too high I think cause a rapid increase in digestive function, and speeds up to the point where the food is digested but not absorbed and simply passed (this is not good). And temps too cool will cause regurges.
I think as long as you have a the proper thermocline, your snakes will find the temp they like regardless of high/low temps (for example the hot side could be 100 deg, and the cool side 60, and as long as the cage is long enough, there should be ample room for your snake to find a comfortable spot).
-13mur 6
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04-18-2003, 01:49 AM
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I needed a comma there, between "range" and "outside", I'll edit and fix. My point was, 86 being ambient cage temp, is too high. The temps I mentioned are suggested air temps, not one side of the cage or other's surface temperature gradient. I confused myself when I went back and read that...sorry. I was trying to say that in a large cage, a hotspot (be it a light pad, etc.) is fine if the overall temps stay in the low 80's, high 70's.
I was dealing with snakes in rubbermaids with flexwatt and a thermostat. At 86 I was keeping my snakes too warm. They see days that warm here, but I was keeping them at that temp at all times except brumation. I don't suggest it. Especially just to get a snake to "poop more."
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04-18-2003, 02:52 AM
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Oh okay, now I get it. Yep, 86 ambient air temp is way too high (heat stroke and dehydration anyone?).
-13mur 6
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04-18-2003, 10:50 AM
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OK now I'm a bit confused. I unfortunately don't own a digital or laser thermometer, but I do have three thermometers in the aquarium. All are down at the substrate level, one on the cool end, one in the middle, and lastly one on the hot end near the basking spot (this one is a combination thermometer/ humidity guage). My cool end reads (these temps are with the heat lamp on) 80-83 degrees, the hot end usually around 90 with around 40-50% humidity.
There are hide spots in all three "sections", but my snakes most always stay in the hide spot on the hot end.
Also, can anyone tell me if my humidty level is good? With the light on, the humidity is usually 40-50%, and levels off at around 80-86% about an hour after the heat sources cut off.
Thanks for the advice everyone!
JD
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04-18-2003, 03:12 PM
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If your water bowl isn't steaming, your humidity is probably fine.
If the snake sheds in one piece and there is no moisture on the cage sides, you're probably within the acceptable range. Florida is humid, but there are corns here in the Carolinas in some pretty dry feilds.
As for thermometers, get a digital indoor/outdoor at your local hardware store. The therm tells two temps, put it in the cool end, and the probe in the warm end. Around $16, and is SO much more accurate than the mercury ones, or worse yet, the tape type that stick to the glass. Those are almost worthless. Too affected by room temperatue.
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04-19-2003, 01:31 PM
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I love the vampire chronicles, and mostly the films but i think the queen of the damned is too short. The vampire Lestat and the queen of the damned should of been seperate films but i love the soundtrack! I was going to call my royaL python Enkil to go with Akasha but i don't think it suits him so now i'm thinkin of calling him Lestat.
Also sorry but i have to ask, J_Daniels is your username anything to do with Daniel Johns from silverchair?
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04-20-2003, 11:24 AM
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A good guide to whether your humidity is ok is to how the snake sheds. You seem to have a middle to high humidity level, and so I would imagine that you aren't experiencing any problems.
As to temperature, IMHO, I would say that 80-83 for the cool end is a little on the warm side. The temperature range that we provide goes from about 70-95, and you would be surprised how much time they spend on the cooler ends sometime. Of course, this is just what we have experienced, and it would be interesting to hear other people's view on this.
Skye
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04-21-2003, 09:09 AM
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my snow corn, Chione, is about 10 months old an bout 24" long.
It eats 3 pinkies every 7-10 days and deficates fter 3-5 days.
It`s kept in a 3ft glass aqurium with correct vivarium lid, heated by lamp and an undertank thermal pad. Temps are measured 1" from the substrate and are 85 hotside and 70 coolside. During the day, chione prefers to hide on the cool side, only going to the hot side when the lamp is off. Chione seems perfectly happy with this arrangement although the humidity is low causing sheds to come off in several peices.
in fact, i fed her on saturday.. well tried but she wasn`t interested so i put the pinkies in her tank (on paper towels for added security - dont want her eating the substrate) - then i went to the pub.. came home to find the pinkies gone and 2 nice peices of shed skin waiting for me
Personally i`m finding that its best only meddle with the snake the minimum amount - its a semi-wild creature that knows how to look after itself just as long as the tank is setup up correctly and food and water are provided!
edit - apologies for the bad spelling - the A key on my kebord is about worn out!
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04-21-2003, 12:35 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by fateamber
Also sorry but i have to ask, J_Daniels is your username anything to do with Daniel Johns from silverchair?
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Actually, it's my name, Jason Daniels. But, hey, thanks for asking!
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