Petco Nightmare (Cohabbing not so great)

Originally Posted by snakewispera snr

I always thought there was an un-written rule here that you can't post miss information as a newb might see it an think it's o.k. Like if I said its O.K. to change the water every month as the don't drink much, or keep your temps at 65-70 and they're easier to catch.
So can't this pro-co-hab thing be relegated to the miss-information pile and people warned about persistently banging on that it fine. After all it has been said that experienced keepers have managed it, but some of the experienced newbs are calling it now and it gets boring.
After all snakes are cheap and the set up costs so if a new newb keeps reading that its possible how tempted are they to get that second snake
MIKE

You cant call it mis-information as you say yourself some experienced keepers do it and many do in the Uk at least, not many would argue that its positively beneficial for the snakes but they do say that they have had no problems either, as said previously its a matter of opinion I personally have a pair together but my hatchllings are seperate as I aknowledge the possible risk to them .And the anti co habbers bang on much more, you generally dont get the co habbers attacking non co habbers for their opinions

Originally Posted by lampy

You cant call it mis-information as you say yourself some experienced keepers do it and many do in the Uk at least, not many would argue that its positively beneficial for the snakes but they do say that they have had no problems either, as said previously its a matter of opinion I personally have a pair together but my hatchllings are seperate as I aknowledge the possible risk to them .And the anti co habbers bang on much more, you generally dont get the co habbers attacking non co habbers for their opinions

Cohabbers don't attack non-cohabbers because they have no ground to stand on. What would a cohabber attack me about? That I care to much about my snakes and spend the money to see that they have a proper home. However cohabbing does have risks that i have never hear properly refuted.

Originally Posted by lampy

...you generally dont get the co habbers attacking non co habbers for their opinions

Of course you don't. They wouldn't have a leg to stand on. What are they going to attack, the fact that we non-cohabbers are keeping a solitary species in solitary conditions?

Originally Posted by lampy

You cant call it mis-information as you say yourself some experienced keepers do it and many do in the Uk at least, not many would argue that its positively beneficial for the snakes but they do say that they have had no problems either, as said previously its a matter of opinion I personally have a pair together but my hatchllings are seperate as I aknowledge the possible risk to them .And the anti co habbers bang on much more, you generally dont get the co habbers attacking non co habbers for their opinions

I can call it mis-information, when I know that a newb might read it and think they can get away with it.
Besides, I cannot see the need to do it, tell me one benefit you get from co-habiting, that I can't get keeping them alone. Because I can give you one benefit keeping them alone that you can't get.
MIKE

Originally Posted by Roy Munson

Of course you don't. They wouldn't have a leg to stand on. What are they going to attack, the fact that we non-cohabbers are keeping a solitary species in solitary conditions?

Definitely a 'quote of the week' contender!

What I meant is I may differ in my opinion over this or other issue but i generally wouldnt accuse anyone of not caring for or mistreating their snake for doing something that not everybody agrees is the best or only way to do a thing.

Plus the main point of what I said was that you cant call it mis-information as no one is saying its ideal nor claiming its the only way to do it, nor are we saying their may be no problems so were is the mis-information, its simply a differing opinion and as valid as any other here.

I liken it to circus performers. That is to say. Before the high wire act takes place young and impressionable people are warned "these are experienced people.. don't try this at home"
It's the same here.
MIKE

Originally Posted by lampy

What I meant is I may differ in my opinion over this or other issue but i generally wouldnt accuse anyone of not caring for or mistreating their snake for doing something that not everybody agrees is the best or only way to do a thing.

Plus the main point of what I said was that you cant call it mis-information as no one is saying its ideal nor claiming its the only way to do it, nor are we saying their may be no problems so were is the mis-information, its simply a differing opinion and as valid as any other here.

See lampy, you do have a point. BUT many of us feel that since there are KNOWN risks in cohabbing, people who are aware of these risks yet continue to cohab, really DON'T care about the health and well being of their snakes. One of my snakes DIED as a result of being cohabbed. Anyone who knows snakes can die from it, yet continue to do it, really are not responsible pet owners IMO, and I will tell them so!

Good answer, and my sentiments exactly... I would rep you but I have to spread it around first....LOL
MIKE

Originally Posted by starsevol

See lampy, you do have a point. BUT many of us feel that since there are KNOWN risks in cohabbing, people who are aware of these risks yet continue to cohab, really DON'T care about the health and well being of their snakes. One of my snakes DIED as a result of being cohabbed. Anyone who knows snakes can die from it, yet continue to do it, really are not responsible pet owners IMO, and I will tell them so!

*light bulb moment here*. This was a point of view I didn't truly see till now. While I believe that I had some idea as to why people seem so aggravated about cohabitating, your comment helps me better understand why people react they way they do to those who practice cohabitating..(this doesn't mean that I agree with the way they react to cohabitators or that I believe that cohabitators don't care about their snakes)..but it helps put into perspective why. Thank you Starsevol