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Old 06-01-2009, 05:42 PM   #1
ForkedTung
Hybrid list

I found this on the STR site here: http://www.southtexasreptiles.com/st...ead.php?t=3191

Just an FYI post to see what people think and if there are more to add [I didn't read the whole thread,( lazy)]...
Hybrid/Intergrade haters...I'll save you the trouble so you can move on..
"these are terrible...a detriment to snakes everywhere...kill'em all..."...lol... there now you can continue on your way.


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Here are a list of known Hybrids and Intergrades. I did not create this list. I merely researched and combined.

Hybrid = the offspring of two animals or plants of different breeds, varieties, species, or genera, as produced through human manipulation for specific genetic characteristics.

Intergrade = The crossing of two species or subspecies that occurs in the wild.

List of known Colubrid Hybrids and Intergrades
Cornsnake x Ratsnake Combos
Creamsicle Corn = "Amelanistic" Panterophis g. guttata X Panterophis g. emoryi
Rootbeer Corn = "Normal Colored" Panterophis g. guttata X Panterophis g. emoryi
Pearl Cornsnake = Panterophis g. guttata X Leucistic Panterophis o. lindheimerii
Frosted Cornsnake = Panterophis g. guttata X Panterophis o. spiloides

Cornsnake X Kingsnake Combos
Jungle Corn = Panterophis g. guttata X Lampropeltis getula california
Tri Color Jungle Corn = Ruthven's King X Cornsnake
Super Corn = 75% Panterophis g. guttata X 25% Lampropeltis getula


Cornsnake X Milksnake Combos
Sinacorn = Cornsnake X Sinaloan Milksnake
Pueblacorn = Panterophis g. guttata X Lampropeltis triangulum campbelli
Cornduran = P. g. guttata X L. t. hondurensis

Kingsnake Combos
Lemon King = L. g. californiae x L. g. floridana
Carpet King = Thayeri X Greeri
Pastel King = Thayeri X Ruthven's Kingsnake
ALBINO ARIZONA MOUNTAIN x QUERETARO KINGSNAKES Lampropeltis pyromelana pyromelana x ruthveni
ALBINO TARAHUMARA MOUNTAIN x QUERETARO KINGSNAKES Lampropeltis pyromelana knoblochi X ruthveni
Ruthen's Grey = Lampropeltis alterna X Lampropeltis ruthveni

Milksnake Combos
Camduran = Pueblan Milk X Hondoran Milk

Kingsnake X Milksnake Combos
Clown King = Thayeri X Nelson's Milk
Candy Colored Clown = "Amelanistic" Thayeri X Nelsons Milksnake
Painted King = 75% Pueblan Milk X 25% Cal King
Imperial Pueblan = 25% Pueblan Milk X 75% Cal King
Sinacal = L. t. sinaloae X L. g. california
ALBINO ORANGE-APRICOT PUEBLAN MILK SNAKE x QUERETARO KINGSNAKES Lampropeltis triangulum campbelli x ruthveni

Ratsnake X Ratsnake Combos
Bubblegum Ratsnake = "Amelanistic" Panterophis o. obsoleta X Panterophis o. rossalleni e
Greenish Ratsnake = Panterophis o. obsoleta X Panterophis o. quadrivittata

Turbocorns = Cornsnake X Gophersnake

List of known Python Hybrids and Intergrades
Carpall = Ball Python X Jungle Carpet Python
Car-Bomb = Ball Python X Coastal Carpet Python (Jag-Sib)
Carpondro = Carpet Python X Green Tree Python
Borneo Bateaters = Burmese Python X Reticulated Python (Python m. bivittatus x Python reticulatus)
Super Balls = Ball X Blood
BurmBall = Burmese X Ball
Burmese Rock = Burmese X Rock
Jungle Carpet X Retic
([Python m. bivittatus x Python reticulatus] x Python m.bivittatus)
([Python m. bivittatus x Python reticulatus] x Python reticulatus)
Wall = Woma X Ball Python
Carpet Python X Scrub Python
Diamond Jungle Jaguar = Diamond Jungle Intergrade X Jaguar Carpet Python
Papuan Jaguar = Papuan Carpet X Jaguar Carpet Python
Jungle Jaguar = Jungle Carpet X Jaguar Carpet Python
Tiger Jaguar = Tiger Carpet X Jaguar Carpet Python
Carpondro X Jungle Carpet Python
Angry Ball = Angolan Python X Ball Python
Diamond Carpet Python X Coastal Carpet Python

List of known Boa Hybrids and Intergrades
Amazon Tree Boa X Emerald Tree Boa
Carpondro X Green tree python
Suriname Locale BCC X Columbian Locale BCI (Albinos and Hypos Rapture believes)

List of known Venomous Hybrids
Gabinos = Rhino Viper X Gaboon Viper
Cottonheads = Copperhead X Cottonmouth
Batwings = Eastern Diamondback X Timber Rattlesnake
Gaboon Viper X Puff Adder

Info from:
http://hybridherps.com
http://www.designermorphs.com
http://p219.ezboard.com/fmoreliaviri...cID=9587.topic
Rapture
more to follow
 
Old 06-01-2009, 05:46 PM   #2
Drizzt80
I think there may be a list (of all those evil creatures) around here already, but not for certain.

D80
 
Old 06-01-2009, 05:53 PM   #3
ForkedTung
Thanks D80, just tryin to figure out how many we have to kill...
 
Old 06-01-2009, 05:54 PM   #4
mike17l
Like Brent said, I am sure there is a list on here somewhere as well. Also, I do not know who made the list or the definitions, but neither the definition for hybrid or intergrade adequately defines the words. Many of the "hybrids" listed are in fact intergrades and many of them naturally occurring. Speaking of naturally occurring, some hybrids occur naturally as well. Just a thought.
 
Old 06-01-2009, 05:56 PM   #5
mike17l
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Originally Posted by ForkedTung View Post
Thanks D80, just tryin to figure out how many we have to kill...
But yes, Kill them all.
 
Old 06-01-2009, 06:03 PM   #6
Drizzt80
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Originally Posted by ForkedTung View Post
Thanks D80, just tryin to figure out how many we have to kill...
Perfect! I knew you had an ulterior motive!!

D80
 
Old 06-01-2009, 06:28 PM   #7
ForkedTung
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Originally Posted by mike17l View Post
Like Brent said, I am sure there is a list on here somewhere as well. Also, I do not know who made the list or the definitions, but neither the definition for hybrid or intergrade adequately defines the words. Many of the "hybrids" listed are in fact intergrades and many of them naturally occurring. Speaking of naturally occurring, some hybrids occur naturally as well. Just a thought.
Thanks Mike, Actually I'm considering either of these crosses:
Clown King = Thayeri X Nelson's Milk
Candy Colored Clown = "Amelanistic" Thayeri X Nelsons Milksnake

or replacing the Thayeri with my pyro (Lampropeltis pyromelana) and using a Nelson's to introduce the amel gene and then working back towards 75% + pyro, but with the amel... long term project...
I'm not sure if the Nelsons x Pyro has been done before?
 
Old 06-01-2009, 06:31 PM   #8
Drizzt80
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Originally Posted by ForkedTung View Post
Thanks Mike, Actually I'm considering either of these crosses:
Clown King = Thayeri X Nelson's Milk
Candy Colored Clown = "Amelanistic" Thayeri X Nelsons Milksnake

or replacing the Thayeri with my pyro (Lampropeltis pyromelana) and using a Nelson's to introduce the amel gene and then working back towards 75% + pyro, but with the amel... long term project...
I'm not sure if the Nelsons x Pyro has been done before?
Yeah, but then, after all that work, you'll have to kill 'em!!


D80
 
Old 06-01-2009, 06:37 PM   #9
Brewster320
Theres are a few I've seen that are not listed.
Japanese Rat X Corn
Blue Beauty Rat X Greenish Rat
Texdurans- Texas Rat X Honduran Milk

Also I'm kind of courious about the Carpet X Retic. Never heard of that cross before, although I would imagen it to be very possible.
 
Old 06-01-2009, 06:40 PM   #10
Brewster320
Also I plan on rossing my jungle corn with my black rat intergrade. I think the name Jungle Beasts would fit nicely
 

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