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5 months egg bound now nothing

Vinman

Vinman
I had hatched out a small and very skinny Fire Stripe female . She was so small that I did not think she would make it. She was so small that she could not absorb all her egg sack only a little bit of it. I had to cut the rest off because it was starting to dry up. After her first shed she took a small pink right away. It took 5 to 6 meals before she had a decent girth to her. No matter how I much I fed her she never got a real thick girth to her, she had good weight but I could never get her to have a real large girth like my other females.
When she was breeding size I put her to a male and she got gravid. well she laid all duds. I figured she was sterile. I tried her the next year and got some good eggs. Well they hatch and all were bad feeders some would not eat and other were spotty feeders. None of the hatchlings made it past 3 months. Now came the 09 breeding season. Well she was bred to 2 different males. One fire het stripe the other was my deep red; Okeetee X bell/leach stock Blood red. She laid about good 9 eggs, some duds and retailed 3 or 4 eggs. Well I got 7 babies 1 fire female, 2 normal blood females and 4 normal babies het fire stripe. Only one would not eat Of course it was a pic the blood red female.
Well in a few days she passed all the eggs but one. I figured she would pass it with in the next week or 2 but she did not. well that was in May and here we are in the middle of October. I went to see if there was any poop in her cage last night and sure enough there was some so I scoped it out. Something told me to pick her up and see how she was doing. To my surprise the lump was gone, totally gone. I don't remember finding any egg in her cage. Where the hell did it go. The only thing that I remember is taking out of her bin was last week what looked to be a small piece of dried up chicken that she did not eat that I missed and then dried up, maybe it was the egg ????? I don't know now what it was for sure. All I know is the egg is gone. I had this happen to me only 3 or 4 times in 24 years of breeding. Every time this happened I found the egg bound egg in the bin except this time.

Has anyone had this happen to them. I'm not talking about a female passing a egg with in a month time but many months latter, if so I like to hear your Experience
 
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Interesting...

Is it possible that maybe it was so small and shriveled up you mistook it for a piece of bedding during a cleaning? Or maybe she reabsorbed it?
 
It really doesn't take a long time for a slug, especially a smaller one, to become dried up and almost unrecognizable as a slug, so it is possible she passed it and you just missed recognizing it for what it was. I've never really kept track of how long it has taken for any of my females to pass a retained egg. I haven't had too many that took longer than a week or two as I try to reduce them early on for easy passage. I think the longest was close to a month, but if I've learned anything in the amount of time I've had snakes, it's that anything is possible!

Just accept the fact that she's fine now and look forward to a nice and healthy clutch of feeding hatchlings from her in 2010!
 
I just hope she is ok she refussed her last meal last night which just happes to be a FT lg mouse.
 
Interesting...

Is it possible that maybe it was so small and shriveled up you mistook it for a piece of bedding during a cleaning? Or maybe she reabsorbed it?

like I said I think I mistook it for what I thought was a dried up piece of cooked chicken when I was cleanimg her cage
 
I have to ask no crappyness intended. Why chicken? I've read through the "thread" and still don't get it completely. I may be wrong but I swear the reason was expense, but chicken is waaay more expensive than mice so that makes no sense. Do you feed boned chicken? I assume so since the bones have the calcium I just have wondered how that works.
 
Here is a old pic of here gravid and 2 pics of her 09 offspring
 

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I have to ask no crappyness intended. Why chicken? I've read through the "thread" and still don't get it completely. I may be wrong but I swear the reason was expense, but chicken is waaay more expensive than mice so that makes no sense. Do you feed boned chicken? I assume so since the bones have the calcium I just have wondered how that works.

If you read the thread then you know I crush the bones and BTW It cost me 6 buck a week to feed a collection that cost 60 to 70 bucks a week in rodents. Now please lets get back on topic. If you want to discuss it more then go to my members forum and we can discuss there. Thank you
 
@ Vinman - I had almost the same identical situation last breeding season.

My Miami phase female dropped 27 eggs within 3 days and then took 3 weeks to drop a further 7 slugs. She retained 1 for a period of 5 to 6 months, you could clearly see the lump inside her. I did not take her to a vet or anything because she was eating, pooping, shedding and moving normally.

Just like you, I picked her up one day and the lump had mysteriously vanished.

I keep my snakes on paper, so I would have seen anything unusual.

My opinion is that she somehow or other absorbed this slug.

Ciao
 
Hey Vin, I think she probably passed it too and it was mistaking as old food or poop or something but that is pretty interesting.

She is goregous btw. She makes me miss my fire stripe though, I loved him. :cry: The pictures of her hatchlings are beautiful also.
 
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