Animal Cruelty Local Boy Charged.(not for weak at heart)

[Billybobob]

weaver, i am sorry, Jimmy Johnson did call you an idiot my mistake.

 

[CornCrazy]

Great post, Cheryl! I agree with you!

I want to state that "cosmetic surgeries" for animals are not my favorites. I hate tail docks and ear crops. How many of you that are so against declawing cats have a dog with a docked tail or cropped ears? Those surgeries are almost always done for the owner's benefit. People who declaw their cats don't always do it for cosmetic purposes. Both of my cats are declawed. It was either declaw them, get rid of them, or get a divorce. The second 2 were not options for me.

By the way, both of my cats still act like cats...

The actual procedure doesn't hurt, they are under anesthesia of course, but the next 10 to 14 days are pure hell on them.

Jimmy, this all depends on where you have the surgery done. Both of my cats were on pain meds for a week. They didn't like their bandages, but besides that, they did great.

 

[weaver]

I appreciate that everyone is entitled to their own opinions and I don't mind being called an idiot. I've been called worse names by better people. I have never regretted having any of my cats declawed because I think it has given them a better life. My cats have no need to go outside and don't even care to. They don't try to run out of the house. They are quite comfortable where they are. I don't have to deal with fleas or other problems associated with the outdoors. I have a kitten that will be neutered and declawed next week and yes, he will be limping and licking himself for a few days. We all make sacrifices in order to live with others. This is a sacrifice I require of my cats. I don't live in absolutes as some of you do. I also don't criticize others for having their own opinions. I realize that it is hard to convey emotions on the computer so I apologize to all who were offended by my post.

 

[Baba-Lou]

Wow only one of my cats have ever gotten declawed and that was because my last cat was an outdoor cat and got food forhimself. The reason why my momst recent cat is declawed is because I never wanted to lose another cat. Call me inhumane or cruel. But I wanted to know my kitties were going to have a safe and healthy life living indoors then wondering if my cats going to be ok and will ever come home. Oh well. I'd want all my Cats declawed then. And its not for the sake of my furniture. I just don't want to deal with losing my cats again.

 

[Billybobob]

Wow only one of my cats have ever gotten declawed and that was because my last cat was an outdoor cat and got food forhimself. The reason why my momst recent cat is declawed is because I never wanted to lose another cat. Call me inhumane or cruel. But I wanted to know my kitties were going to have a safe and healthy life living indoors then wondering if my cats going to be ok and will ever come home. Oh well. I'd want all my Cats declawed then. And its not for the sake of my furniture. I just don't want to deal with losing my cats again.

After reading your post i am left with a few question.

What dose having your cats declawed have to do with you losing your cats? And what dose having your cats declawed have to do with your cats having a safe and healthy life living indoors?

 

[Baba-Lou]

After reading your post i am left with a few question.

What dose having your cats declawed have to do with you losing your cats? And what dose having your cats declawed have to do with your cats having a safe and healthy life living indoors?

Easy. I lost a cat who was an out door cat if you read..and thats why i have my cat declawed so its an indoor cat. And knowing my cats are declawed and are always going to be inside. I know that no other cat or Raven will attack them or get eaten by the local wildlife...such as bears, foxes...etc.

 

[Billybobob]

I did read your post and I think that you need to understand that a cat dose not have to be declawed to be a house cat. A cat with claws will live in a house just as easily as a cat that has been declawed.

 

[ultimuttone]

...and a cat that has been declawed can run out the door just as easy as one with claws...

 

[daisy]

My sentiments exactly Traci -
When I was little, I had a cat that my mother had de-clawed. She escaped the house when a friend and I were running in and out, and was lost for three long weeks. She did come back, but was obviously starving and had been in more than one losing battle with the local wildlife. Needless to say that my mother had a few choice words and a large vet bill afterwards. She doesn't declaw anymore either.

As for the comments about this boy - I agree, his actions were uncalled for. I also agree that being only 14, it's pretty obvious that he has not yet learned respect for other creatures. Perhaps some mandatory volunteer time at the local pound would help.

Oh - and as for the comments about how pigs and cows are 'prepared' for us to eat - I have friends with a cattle farm, and it's not pretty, or even humane. There is more than one reason I'm a vegetarian.

 

[noodles]

I'm in shock and feel sick i can't belive people who say they love animals would cut there nails out for any reason i can't belive this happens, i would like a cat but i am alergic to them so i know i can't have one i would never get one and shave it's hair off just to suit me and that would be alot less painfull!

 

[Serpwidgets]

We all make sacrifices in order to live with others. This is a sacrifice I require of my cats.

I think this sums it up pretty nicely. No animal (human, cat, dog, etc) is born in a state where they are fit to live in a civilized society.

 

[Skye]

A brief opinion on the cat issue. I come from the UK and always grew up with cats. We never had any of them declawed. In fact, I had never even heard of the procedure. Maybe it happens there, but I had never come across it with our cats or with those belonging to any of our friends. Moving to the USA, I was confused the first time I ever heard the word "declawed". I had problems comprehending that people would knowingly have parts of their pet that they didn't like ripped or clipped out. I don't believe in designer animals of any kind and so just as I wouldn't remove the venom glands from a venomous snake, neither would I declaw a cat. We live in a world where everything can now be custom-made for the consumer. I wish this hadn't extended to animals.

 

[Wilder]

Oh I'm sorry, I do NOT buy the, "But he's only 14 and doesn't know better" line. If he actually doesn't 'know better' at that age he either needs better parents or ones that will find him some good mental health care. Sure, it's great he doesn't want his snake to be harmed, but when you're yanking the teeth and cutting the toes off a mouse, I'm SURE the creature is squeaking and struggling. Gee, I guess he just didn't know that meant it hurt the creature?

If the child were much younger, then maybe I can see where someone might make the comment that he didn't yet learn to have compassion for other creatures, but at 14? If he hasn't learned it before then, when should he?

 

[ghosthousecorns]

Big can of worms.
I am still firmly against declawing after reading everyone's reasons for doing it. I don't like dogs getting their tails and ears cropped but at least they are not losing a part of their anatomy they would need to have in a defense or survival situation. I do believe that pets should be spayed or neutered but that's like apples and oranges to compare to declawing. Preventing unwanted pets is different from amputating pets to suit our needs. I still can't imagine furniture having so much more value than your pet and companion.

 

[weaver]

I will only say one more thing on this subject. My sister had a cat that was 3 years old. Spayed and declawed. She got remarried and the cat hated her new husband so the cat got tossed outside. I'm not saying that I would've done this but that's what happened. The cat, even though declawed was able to survive for an additional 13 years and recently died at the ripe old age of 16. She was still able to catch birds, squirrels, mice and other various creatures. She never lost her hunting skills even though my sister kept her fed. Apparently it was something she enjoyed doing. She also lives just outside of city limits so there is plenty of wildlife around, like foxes and bobcats. Believe it or not, cats don't rely solely on their claws. Some of you are just way too opinionated. Not all of the world sees everything the way you do but that doesn't make you right and them wrong. I firmly believe in declawing my cats and won't change my opinion because some of you think I'm a bad person. I also won't think any less of those of you that choose to crop your dogs ears or tails or have your pets shaved in the summer. It's ridiculous to even continue this argument. You are entitled to your opinion and so am I. Let it die.

 

[Gintha]

I, personally, do not like declawing. But I do see its advantages, of course, I have already replaced a very expensive ($10,000) couch and chair that my cat destroyed.. german silk is apparently worth quite a lot ~,~ I talked to my vet about declawing and she suggested a tendonectomy. With this procedure the cat is put under, tiny slits are made on the bottom of the toe, the tendon is severed, the slits are glued closed, the cat wakes up and is back to normal. Given a shot of antibiotics, and a shot of pain meds and thats it, no pills sent home. Have had this done on 6 cats, and none of them have even showed any signs of noticing, with the exception of pulling the glue off their toes when it started to get lose and itchy =) Not a very well advertised procedure, no idea why, its great. They can still climb, and the claws still need to be clipped, but they can't sharpen them any more hehe =)

Do have to get one of them fully declawed tho, front and back and have his anal glands removed ~,~ He must be medicated every 3 weeks to knock him out so we can clip the claws and drain his anal glands, after 6 months of thinking we decided the surgery would be better for him in the long run, though the idea makes me sick... poor little fella ~,~ (he stops breathing if you try to clip his claws without the meds... form of panic attack... had to do CPR on him 5 times, scary as heck)

 

[Preita]

I just want to know where the parents were during all this. I mean if someone knew long enough to report him, how did the parents not know what was going on? It happens once, I get it, parents don't catch everything, but if this was a regular thing, well you think they would have thought something was up.

I personally belive that the de-clawing issue is personal. We have 3 cats, all have claws and we have one ripped up sofa, and one nice slip cover Sometimes I wish they didnt have claws (like when they nead!) but I never thought it was a big enough issue to take them out.

But it is a personal issue, just like taking care of ones kids is personal. No one should be called names over it for it doesn't affect anyone but the owner and it's really no one else's business

 

[Roy Munson]

I may very well be an idiot. Thinking I could post my opinion without being called names. Silly me.

Some of you are just way too opinionated... It's ridiculous to even continue this argument. You are entitled to your opinion and so am I. Let it die.

Hmmm. You post your opinion, and it's ok. Others do the same and they are way too opinionated, presumably because their opinions oppose yours. I have friends who've had their cats declawed. They're not monsters. I wouldn't do it myself, but that doesn't make me Saint Roy.

But heck, what do I care? You can get your cat de-legged for all the impact it has on me.

 

[cowboyman13]

Now we are talking about humanly treating an animal that most regularly catch with Cheese or i prefer peanut butter on a spring loaded trap that i guess is humane because its all over in a split second.

I have to say i would have used the 4inch grinder with a carbon blade vs the nail clippers... Just a joke don't :flames: cowboyman13 for being a little light hearted on the subject.

My honest opinion in no way can you compare a mouse to a humane in any way you treat it. Of course i feel the same way about most animals lower in the food chain than us. Maybe its humane nature maybe I'm just a hard***.

You can however teach a 14 year old right from wrong and you can as a mentor teach them what you think is acceptable behavior in life. You all so have to teach him about the laws and consequences of breaking them. Whether you agree with them or not.

I am sure that the SPCA, PETA, the world full of tree huggers, and those who think his fingers and teeth being done the same too will have a field day with this. When all of this should be handled with a hickory switch and trip behind the tool shed.

Of course thats just my opinion.

 

[CornCrazy]

Hmmm. You post your opinion, and it's ok. Others do the same and they are way too opinionated, presumably because their opinions oppose yours. I have friends who've had their cats declawed. They're not monsters. I wouldn't do it myself, but that doesn't make me Saint Roy.

But heck, what do I care? You can get your cat de-legged for all the impact it has on me.

Roy, I think her issue was that she was called an idiot...not that others are just as opinionated.