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Blizzards + Bloodreds

hurricane1

Member...needs more corns
What would i get if i bred a blizzard and a bloodred?

What do i breed to get a blizzard?

What do I breed to get a bloodred?

Thanks
 
hurricane1 said:
What would i get if i bred a blizzard and a bloodred?

What do i breed to get a blizzard?

What do I breed to get a bloodred?

Thanks

Blizzard X Bloodred: The offspring would all look normal, but may or may not show some influence from the bloodred parent.

A Blizzard is expressing the traits Charcoal and Amelanism. To hatch blizzards you need parents that are both carrying ("het for") or expressing Amelanism and carrying or expressing Charcoal.

Bloodred is a separate trait. The pattern portion of it appears to be the result of a particular gene, but the really high quality bloodreds are selectively-bred to achieve the "true" bloodred look. To hatch bloodreds you would need to start with two corns who each had at least one bloodred parent. The better the parents, the more likely you are to hatch "high-quality" bloodred offspring.
 
:) hi ya Serpwidgets

so if your got 2 of the offspring from the blizzard x bloodred breeding,
then mated them, what would the outcome be/look like,



also what does a high class bloodred look like,what makes it better than another if you know what i mean,
 

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so if your got 2 of the offspring from the blizzard x bloodred breeding,
then mated them, what would the outcome be/look like
Well, trying to create triple morphs from triple hets is a silly way to go about it. The statistical outcome would be that 1 in 64 of them would be expressing all 3 traits. Meanwhile you're producing 63 other "boring" offspring. ;)

What does a bloodred + amel + charcoal "bloodred blizzard" look like? I couldn't tell ya. What would an amelanistic pewter look like? It's the same thing. ;)

also what does a high class bloodred look like,what makes it better than another if you know what i mean,
A top-notch bloodred looks like what everyone pictures when they hear the name. There are quite a bit of differences in the ground colors, the thickness of the black bordering, and the fading out of the side pattern.

I posted a big schpiel about sunglows this fall, the gist of it was this:

Imagine if the first amels ever found had no white on them. The person who discovered them called them "sunglow" corns. So of course, everyone got to know them as sunglows. He sold them, and people everywhere started outcrossing them to other lines, and the resulting (amel) hatchlings had lots of white on them. Some people insisted they were sunglows because they expressed the trait (amelanism) associated with the original lines. Others insisted that those were not "pure" sunglows because they have white on them, unlike the original lines.

So basically anything expressing amelanism was considered by many to be a sunglow, so of course most people continued selling any amel under the name "sunglow." This caused lots of confusion... but what else were they supposed to do, everyone make up their own new name and cause even more confusion?

So, if you really wanted a "true" sunglow with no white on it, the only way to be sure was to shop around a lot and get one from someone who did a lot of selective breeding to achieve the look you personally desired in a sunglow.

IMO this is what happened with bloodreds. Currently there are all kinds of animals that express the associated trait, but are not the same thing as the original lines, so if you want a specific type of bloodred, you have to shop for what matches your tastes.
(yeah, that's the shortened version... LOL!)

One of mine, Mary, has a dark tan ground color instead of the "ideal" red. Some people like those colors better. As far as plain bloodreds (not combined with other morphs) go, I really like the ones with bright, deep orange ground color instead of the pure red. But IMO the "grade-A" bloods are the ones where you have to stare at them to try to find the pattern.
 
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