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Chronicles of ringworm *picheavy*
- Thread starter JustineNYC
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kathylove
Pragmatic & Logical
I am using it in place of butter and other oils or fats. I am also giving my cats 1 tablespoon per day (for 2 cats) in hopes of decreasing hairballs and enhancing skin and coat conditions in my older cat. I will try it for a month or so and evaluate any changes.
Although I have not used it topically, I have a local friend who uses it on her skin as a moisturizer, and also said it really worked well on sunburns. According to some websites, the oil does help other skin problems such as eczema. I don't know if it is true, but the nice thing is that it can't hurt, so why not try it? And it smells great!
I have not started using it on any snakes yet, but plan to give it a try.
Although I have not used it topically, I have a local friend who uses it on her skin as a moisturizer, and also said it really worked well on sunburns. According to some websites, the oil does help other skin problems such as eczema. I don't know if it is true, but the nice thing is that it can't hurt, so why not try it? And it smells great!
I have not started using it on any snakes yet, but plan to give it a try.
Susan
Go Ahead, Make My Day!
Ivermectin for mange, not ringworm. Oral treatment also works and is used at my clinic for demodectic mange in dogs. It must be given once daily by mouth for about 30-90 days (can't skip even one day or you go back to square one), depending upon severity of the case. The injectable ivermectin (for cattle and swine) can be given either by injection or orally, but the oral liquid (for horses, and I don't like the paste as it is too concentrated) can only be given by mouth. Both taste pretty nasty so give the pet something very yummy afterwards to wash the taste out of the mouth.
Sorry to hear the diagnosis of ringworm was confirmed (the injection of ivermectin may still be a good precautionary step as those ears sure look like scabies, the most favorite place on cats for it). Ask your vet if the miconazole in spray form can be used occasionally as an alternative to the shampoo, just to perhaps relieve the stress of both the kitten and the person shampooing. You'll still need to put a protective ointment in the kittens eyes to prevent any damage or irritation. And for you, the cheapest generic antifungal cream will do. I had a small case once, but that was 25 years ago. I guess I'm more resistant to mites and fungi considering the amount of exposure I get at work.
JustineNYC
New member
Update....:bounce:
My pregnant friend who had the 3 kittens calls me and tells me, she has ringworm, her bf, cat and pit bull also.
Her dog has these long lesions on his face.
The next day my Lab has a lesion on her foot, and my other Lab has a bald spot under his nose.....
Now one of my cats who I had in the same pet carrier as Moglie 2 weeks ago when I took him to the vet, I look at him and hes got bald circles on his ears....to make a long story short, I called the vet and told him this is going to give me a nervous breakdown. I have 5 cats and 2 Labs, and now I have it as well...
I went from one cat having it, now 3 animals, is it going to be 6 next week? There is a 10 day incubation before you know if you have it. So we are treating EVERYONE simultaneously. My yellow Lab is 100 pounds, its 19$ dollars a day to medicate him and he'll be on the pills for weeks. Thats just him.
So......yay.
Ive taken in stays before and I have never let them mingle as quickly as I did with this kitten. Even after a vet has told me it was alright....I shouldve known better, and the one time I didnt.
I feel terrible. Ive always taken care of my animals, every one is always up to date with vaccinations, and now almost everyone has this disgusting PITA infection. :headbang::headbang::headbang:
How ironic they were all strays living outside and they never had this, they got it, in my home.
My vet is really nice though, he did want a culture from at least one dog to make sure this is the same thing, and he didnt charge me for the visit and he took 50$ off the pills.....I have to go back 2 more times for refills.
My pregnant friend who had the 3 kittens calls me and tells me, she has ringworm, her bf, cat and pit bull also.
Her dog has these long lesions on his face.
The next day my Lab has a lesion on her foot, and my other Lab has a bald spot under his nose.....
Now one of my cats who I had in the same pet carrier as Moglie 2 weeks ago when I took him to the vet, I look at him and hes got bald circles on his ears....to make a long story short, I called the vet and told him this is going to give me a nervous breakdown. I have 5 cats and 2 Labs, and now I have it as well...
I went from one cat having it, now 3 animals, is it going to be 6 next week? There is a 10 day incubation before you know if you have it. So we are treating EVERYONE simultaneously. My yellow Lab is 100 pounds, its 19$ dollars a day to medicate him and he'll be on the pills for weeks. Thats just him.
So......yay.
Ive taken in stays before and I have never let them mingle as quickly as I did with this kitten. Even after a vet has told me it was alright....I shouldve known better, and the one time I didnt.
I feel terrible. Ive always taken care of my animals, every one is always up to date with vaccinations, and now almost everyone has this disgusting PITA infection. :headbang::headbang::headbang:
How ironic they were all strays living outside and they never had this, they got it, in my home.
My vet is really nice though, he did want a culture from at least one dog to make sure this is the same thing, and he didnt charge me for the visit and he took 50$ off the pills.....I have to go back 2 more times for refills.
SnakesRule1234
New member
Oh, that sucks! I feel so bad for you... I got ringworm during the wrestling season (long story). But it kept on spreading to more people.. so I know how you feel.. kind of..
Anyway, I might have missed this, but can the ringworm spread to your reptiles?
Anyway, I might have missed this, but can the ringworm spread to your reptiles?
JustineNYC
New member
It sounds like it..found this online
"Ringworm fungi that usually infect people, pets and livestock have also caused skin infections of snakes. Snakes must be housed in scrupulously clean and dry enclosures. The flooring must be easy to clean and should not be of a material that encourages fungal (mold) growth (see section on Housing)."
JustineNYC
New member
I knew this was coming....
Moglie climbing out of his quarantined area....
Moglie leaving his quarantined area....
Moglie out of his quarantined area....
Moglie climbing out of his quarantined area....
Moglie leaving his quarantined area....
Moglie out of his quarantined area....
Cegninedorf
Twang'em into trees!
Oooooooooooooooooooh, he just looks so sad & lonely...and innocent to his crime! -- he wants to be with everyone else! One thing that helps my cats is if I put with them a piece of clothing or a towel that has my smell all over it...and maybe he needs to be put in a large-sized kitty carrier? Or, put a "lid" (sheet of wood?) on his area? :shrugs:I knew this was coming....Moglie out of his quarantined area....
I know that it's easier from my side to comment because I'm not there, dealing with it 24/7, but I do hope that treatment works & that this will all be something that you can laugh about in a couple of months! :cheers:
dionythicus
Kiss My Hearse
Now that everyone has it and you're all being treated simultaneously, does it matter that he stays in quarantine?
snakemom1961
Spring is here!
That's exactly what I was thinking.
JustineNYC
New member
Nope, thats what the vet said. Thats why I wasnt freaking out. I do still feed him and let him stay in there near his litter until we have his poo tested one more time just to be sure he doesnt have worms before he is running around and wandering into the other cat litter.
Plus he still has ALOT of dead skin falling off him, and thats where the ringworm is, in the dead skin, so its easier for me cleaning wise to limit him so I can constantly vacuum that area.....Even though I have it and we're all being treated, I dont wanna be walking on ringworm follicles ya know.
The ringworm spores, I read, can live in the home for up to a year, so Im afraid he'll go behind something and drop spores unbeknowst to myself and this will start again in 6 months. Just easier for me to keep clean by limiting his little infected butt LOL
I know Im paranoid, I just want to be careful.
snakemom1961
Spring is here!
Not being paranoid at all. I didn't realize the spores could last that long.
Good luck in figuring out a way to keep him isolated.
Good luck in figuring out a way to keep him isolated.
Shiari
Blutterer
There are actually ringworm spores everywhere. It takes concentration/conditions/immune system suppression/bad luck (typically at least 2 of the 4, one of which is concentration) to actually get it.
I got ringworm once from where I work (and I'm now immune! BAHAHAHA!) due to having to sit on a shelf-thing in the middle of one of the long cat runs in order to clean the back of it. I got ringworm on the insides of my thighs. Not happy. But I got it because there were a great many there (infected cats) and the seat was damp still (happy spores!).
With older animals, there's often no point to treating unless the infection is extreme. The treatment takes as long to work as the immune system. You maybe cut things down by a day or two, and I don't know if that's worth the expense. Kittens on the other hand, with their underdeveloped immune system do need the help.
I got ringworm once from where I work (and I'm now immune! BAHAHAHA!) due to having to sit on a shelf-thing in the middle of one of the long cat runs in order to clean the back of it. I got ringworm on the insides of my thighs. Not happy. But I got it because there were a great many there (infected cats) and the seat was damp still (happy spores!).
With older animals, there's often no point to treating unless the infection is extreme. The treatment takes as long to work as the immune system. You maybe cut things down by a day or two, and I don't know if that's worth the expense. Kittens on the other hand, with their underdeveloped immune system do need the help.
JustineNYC
New member
Thats what the doctor said. Hes surprised it usually doesnt spread like this.
I got within 10 days of contact with the kitten, so did Dale and Molly and Peewee's popped up within 10 days of exposure to the same carrying pet case.
Peewee has been walking around sleeping with my other cats for the last week, so what cat is going to show signs in another 10 days from touching him? Thats why Im treating everyone.
Does that mean all of our immune systems are supressed. I dont think so....maybe the other cats wont get it but from one kitten to three animals and myself, I rather pay the expense and not worry.
All I know is the kitten has/had it BAD. One Monday he had one spot on his ear and by Wednesday he had 30 scaley bald spots on his body and then they turned into lesions. I know their are different strands of ringworm, maybe this was a bad one. Anyone who came into contact with him got it. And my friend and her family got it from theres.
Hes got it on his head, above his eyes, his ears, his feet, the insides of the legs, his belly, 4 spots on his back, his shoulders and his neck. Without the medicine, it wouldve ate him up.
Some people say its not that contagious and if you search online some people say its HIGHLY contagious.
I got within 10 days of contact with the kitten, so did Dale and Molly and Peewee's popped up within 10 days of exposure to the same carrying pet case.
Peewee has been walking around sleeping with my other cats for the last week, so what cat is going to show signs in another 10 days from touching him? Thats why Im treating everyone.
Does that mean all of our immune systems are supressed. I dont think so....maybe the other cats wont get it but from one kitten to three animals and myself, I rather pay the expense and not worry.
All I know is the kitten has/had it BAD. One Monday he had one spot on his ear and by Wednesday he had 30 scaley bald spots on his body and then they turned into lesions. I know their are different strands of ringworm, maybe this was a bad one. Anyone who came into contact with him got it. And my friend and her family got it from theres.
Hes got it on his head, above his eyes, his ears, his feet, the insides of the legs, his belly, 4 spots on his back, his shoulders and his neck. Without the medicine, it wouldve ate him up.
Some people say its not that contagious and if you search online some people say its HIGHLY contagious.
JustineNYC
New member
BTW- If ringworm spores are everywhere how come no one in my home contracted it until I brought an infected kitten inside? Is it a different strand?
If their immune systems were surpressed, you would think they wouldve gotten it when they were feral cats outside.
Shiari
Blutterer
It's because of the concentration. We carry ringworm in on our shoes and pants. We touch the carpet or our clothes with our hands, then the furniture, so now there are spores on our furniture. From there it goes to counters and our beds, etc etc.
Also, ringworm wants a wet surface to germinate on. That's why I got it. Large concentration, damp pants from sitting on the damp shelf.
So, until your walking ringworm factor popped into your house, the concentration was never high enough to cause clinical cases.
Hopefully you'll all be un-ringwormed soon. You have my complete sympathy and understanding.
Also, ringworm wants a wet surface to germinate on. That's why I got it. Large concentration, damp pants from sitting on the damp shelf.
So, until your walking ringworm factor popped into your house, the concentration was never high enough to cause clinical cases.
Hopefully you'll all be un-ringwormed soon. You have my complete sympathy and understanding.
JustineNYC
New member
Ewwwwww! Thats pretty disturbing but it makes sense.
Now I saw Moglies mom who is a street cat and shes got it too. My neighbors yard is a complete dump. He has old pool equiptment, mountains of old cabinets he ripped out of his house, a bath tub, piles of lumber, shopping carts and just millions of things piled over your head. Underneath all that junk, that is where mommy gave birth to the kittens, and we had alot of rain at the time, so I guess all the junk, dirt and dampness was a breeding ground for the fungus.
That is where we found 3 of the kittens and then she moved Moglie after we found her spot.