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Daytona Tshirt Take 2 (Sorry, Rich!)
- Thread starter TripleMoonsExotic
- Start date
carol
Down with the sickness
In all fairness, the information of what the first dinner was called can be found within this site.Drizzt80 said:
Even if said keepers were to come here and discuss it, it's already been laid out that they won't be listened to and the name just isn't up for discussion so...... I wonder why they haven't shown?
I believe a lot of members are here and do read, and will post if they felt it would be benificial. However, why post an opinion on something that has already been shot down?
TripleMoonsExotic
I <3 Stripes!
MohrSnakes said:
Well Jeff, you can get your logo on the back!
VinnyJ
Red Chin Eastern Indigo
You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to carol again. :cheers:carol said:
I think it's great that Stef stepped up to the plate too. I for one DO want to hear what you have to say about the t-shirt... including the content you would like to see on it and your vote in a poll including yours and any other proposed text or content. I think that's a pretty fair way of getting everyones input don't you?:shrugs:Drizzt80 said:
I wanted this to be fun too. We, Lara and I, had such a great time at the get together last year. Making a t-shirt for the event had actually been discussed last year at the dinner and we had mentioned how it would be nice if we could make a t-shirt the next year. That's why I brought it up. Comments like this aren't any fun for the people who suggest them though:
Stephanie... do you really want everyone's input on the shirt or do you only want everyone's input on the things that you come up with? Please don't take this as an attack. I sincerely would like to know so myself and everyone else, can either give you input on what we would like to see on the shirt, including your ideas, and have it voted on or we can vote solely on what you come up with. If everyone knows up front then there's no hurt feelings over the deal. :cheers:blckkat said:
Traci1
New member
VinnyJ said:
blckkat said:
I have to agree that particular comment was in poor taste. I'd be a little irked if I made a suggestion for the shirt and got that response!
At the same time, Stephanie stepped up to the plate to actually get the shirts designed and made. Prior to that it was just "talk". If it were me about to do all that work, would I want to put something on there that I really didn't like?
IMO to make things friendly the best thing would be to do another poll and include the additional suggestions.
I personally like "corn snake crew" cause both "corn snake supper" and "corn snake dinner" makes it sound like we are going to EAT corn snakes!! LOL!
Drizzt80
Dakota Corns
Sooooo, . . . regarding Stef's comment concerning the Corn Snake Supper Club name . . . Nobody here has put their hard work and effort into something and then had someone(s) come along and tell you it was done wrong, or should have been done this way, or it's the wrong color, AND maybe you even had to hear it 3rd or 4th person . . . ?? I only ask because it's a pretty crappy feeling . . . especially when your intention is for FUN and recognition of the community . . . :shrugs: Think about that for a second and then tell me with a straight face that you can fault her reaction . . .
D80
D80
Russell
New member
Drizzt80 said:
Wow, I've had about enough! So I'll leave it at this, BRENT! She asked for opinions, and to vote. Opinions, thoughts, comments were given. And she gave hers, and that's perfectly acceptable. *gasp*
Really! it is! get over it! It's perfectly OK! No one is forcing ANYONE to buy a shirt, and I really don't think anyone but YOU are trying hard to make this more drama than it already is! Get off your high horse and quit trying to dray the other people who don't support this site any more through the mud. Yes, they are entitled to their opinions, yes, they are entitled to their desire to have their little supper club to themselves for all that matters. Yes, they are allowed NOT to buy or support someone elses idea. I think it's a great idea, really it is! I support Steph completely in this. What I don't support is the, oh they are being so mean cause they disagree, or these other people don't want to participate.
It's like having a total panic in kindergarten cause someone doesn't want to share a toy, they'd rather go find another one to play with. so we cry antisocial instead of what it really is.
So please don't try to make this out into yet another chat thread, you've already done a wonderful job to your reputation with these people, why throw another nail into the coffin? I've totally had it with you people that act like this. bye bye!
Russell Keys
Keys Reptiles
Roy Munson
New member
I probably would have designed the shirt the way I wanted it, and simply taken orders for those interested. But I guess Stephanie is more community-minded and fun-seeking than I am, so she offered options (of which "other" was not a choice). In these matters I'm a jerk, and I would have wanted complete creative control (*slams fist on table*).
She can't stand the name. She even apologized in advance. Was she too harsh in her dismissiveness? I don't know. But I don't think she was rude. To be honest, I like "Corn Snake Supper Club" best, but it wasn't an option in this poll. :shrugs:
She can't stand the name. She even apologized in advance. Was she too harsh in her dismissiveness? I don't know. But I don't think she was rude. To be honest, I like "Corn Snake Supper Club" best, but it wasn't an option in this poll. :shrugs:
VinnyJ
Red Chin Eastern Indigo
Yes... I have had plenty of ideas shot down. Who can honestly say they haven't unless they simply don't put any ideas out there for public opinion. If my idea is for something (snake rack) that only concerns me I'll take everyone's opinion into account and ultimately do what ever I feel is best. If my idea is for a community t-shirt then the community should decide what's best. I'm assuming no offense was taken when the shirt color was suggested to be changed. :shrugs: Why is the wording such a big deal? That's why I posed the question. I just wanted to clarify if the community was voting on community ideas or just Stephanie's ideas. I'll probably purchase a t-shirt either way because I enjoy the cornsnake community as a whole.Drizzt80 said:
Russell
New member
Roy Munson said:
nope, wasn't rude at all! She said her opinion. What I don't like is a certain someone else trying hard to claim it's something awful that we speak our opinion, and that others aren't saying much, and making it into some big drama.
I don't see Steph being the shark here. enough said.
ArpeggioAngel
Around Here Somewhere....
To be fair, even though Stephanie didn't like this name in particular, she did suggest an alternate option that I thought was relatively close (Annual Cornsnake Dinner) and would support as an option. But I never saw the poll get updated with that option.
At this point I don't think it is even about people on this site or that site. I think there has been enough disagreement just by us here to give anyone a headache.
jazzgeek
The Rule Of Thirds.
Hey it happens all the time, here on the boards, in the working world, and in personal relationships.Drizzt80 said:
And it happens very frequently to those who work in "creative" endeavors.
A while back, I started a thread on my winning entry in a Worth1000 Photoshop contest. I personally thought it was a good entry, but not my best, just as (when I was a commercial photographer) some of my favorite photos were passed over by my clients. Such is the case when it comes to subjectivity and "taste".
I learned to "deal with it". If one's skin isn't thick enough, it's their problem. :shrugs:
It may be a crappy feeling initially, but if one is too "married" to an idea that is in the minority, and they can't let it go, please refer to my previous summation in the prior quote.
While I applaud Steph's initiative and desire in this project, if she refuses to allow an entry or idea because she personally doesn't like it, I have the straightest of faces.
I presume that since there's a poll on this, she's requesting input on what "the market" deems most desirable.
If she desires to market her own designs, however, that's all well and good as well....perhaps she could look at Kat Hall's "Read Katy Manula" and "Hybird!" shirt designs on CafePress that were proudly worn by a number of people who attended the Tinley Park NARBA show this past October.
The point being, of course, is that if you're offering services like a Chinese restaurant - "Pick one from Column A, and two from Column B" - and someone requests that you add a menu item, and you refuse to do so.....then market forces will prevail.
Please refer to the aforementioned Kat Hall reference.
I hold the personal opinion that, given the variety of options available to me, the cornsnake "community" is better than ever. Do you prefer monopolies over the free market? :shrugs:
regards,
jazz
Russell
New member
and, just cause I can't suddenly seem to keep quiet anymore...
The people who started this, had given it a name. No, it wasn't some club they created, nor did they really think about it at all. It was just cornsnake fans getting together to eat after the show at a set place. So why not use the name that started it all?
But frankly, to these people it doesn't matter much. They just want to get together, talk, eat, and talk some more about cornsnakes. If someone wants to make up a shirt, hey, great, they can call it whatever they want. And when they ask for opinions, they will get some. So just cause someone else steps in and says, well, here's a diff idea, and then get told by someone totally not even in the conversation, that oh, they are being so bad cause they disagree, and won't buy stock in Stephs Daytona shirts...
I have a problem with that.
The people who started this, had given it a name. No, it wasn't some club they created, nor did they really think about it at all. It was just cornsnake fans getting together to eat after the show at a set place. So why not use the name that started it all?
But frankly, to these people it doesn't matter much. They just want to get together, talk, eat, and talk some more about cornsnakes. If someone wants to make up a shirt, hey, great, they can call it whatever they want. And when they ask for opinions, they will get some. So just cause someone else steps in and says, well, here's a diff idea, and then get told by someone totally not even in the conversation, that oh, they are being so bad cause they disagree, and won't buy stock in Stephs Daytona shirts...
I have a problem with that.