Funny E-mail (Political)

[kimbyra]

Very true, Jen. I agree. The flaming has been kept at a minimum. :cheers:
I was just trying to head the cowboys off at the pass.

 

[Taceas]

I don't see why we can't discuss current topics on here. Sure it may be a Cornsnake forum, but this is the General Chit Chat section.

I am really proud that everyone has managed to be mature in how they've conducted themselves so far. It's necessary for people to have a safe place to vent their frustrations with the current problems I think. And here, we're all like-minded folks (in one way, at least) which does seem to give us cohesion despite our differing opinions on some issues.

Living in Southern Indiana, I don't see the influx of illegal Mexican immigrants quite as much as those of you living in a bordering state. Sure we have a lot of migrant workers during the summer for the melon harvests and such. I'm sure quite a few are illegally here. And I can imagine the frustration at feeling powerless to stop it, and powerless as you watch those folks take jobs that legalized Americans once had.

My only connection to Mexico is my mom, and thousands of others here in town lost their jobs as the company relocated this particular plant to Juarez. They paid Mexicans about $3 a day to do the job that Hoosiers were doing for $15+/hr. Sure its a bonus for a large company to save costs, but where's the loyalty for busting your ass for 30 years? Of course it being a German company, where they treat their own German employees like gold, just made it all the worse.

I don't think a military guarded border is going to stop the illegal border crossings. And shooting illegals is just assinine. Most are coming here for a better opprotunity for a better life. Is that so different than our forefathers? I just wish there was a way for them to do it legally, instead of fueling the current stigma against Mexicans.

I don't want to deny anyone my country, really. I think everyone deserves the same rights and freedoms I enjoy. But sometimes I feel like we're a sinking ship and the, pardon my expression, rats are just clambering aboard making it sink all the faster. I don't really know how else to phrase it.

America is a nation of diversity, that's what makes us great, imho. We have white, black, yellow, brown, blue people all living peacefully together (for the most part). We have catholics, protestants, muslims, jews, wiccans, buddhists again, all living peacefully together. Most of the Muslim Middle East probably doesn't understand how you can live next door to a Jew and not want to kill them. The concept for ultimate peace while understanding differences is just such a foreign concept I guess.

In my opinion:

If you want to join my country and be productive, please do just that...work and be productive. We have enough problems paying for Welfare for our own legally born here folks to live off of. Although I think Welfare needs to be gotten rid of, personally. It's just creating a new generation of "something for nothings".

If you want to come and live here, please learn how to speak English. What you do in your own home is fine by me, but when I can't understand you at the Walmart check-out, it creates a problem. If I went to Mexico for vacation, I'd learn some of the key Spanish words and phrases before I left. I don't expect people to understand English when I travel abroad. I expect the same from other people when they come here, as well.

Eating at my local favorite Mexican restaurant is generally a learning experience for me. They all speak truncated-English when dealing with customers, but usually in their banter its all Spanish. But the guy who owns it knows us well, since we're in every week, and we can generally talk about this and that despite our barriers, which is good. =)

But like I said, America is losing respect for people around the world in our quest for "global democracy" and amongst ourselves as well.

I may not be Christian and don't agree with some of the Christian views...but I still manage to get along with them. But once they find out I'm non-Christian, all hell breaks loose.

I don't walk around with my pants hanging off my ass, limping down the street, and holding onto my penis because I think it might fall off (guess I wasn't holding on tight enough, I lost it years ago). I don't expect other people to either. If you look and act like an imbecile, I'm not going to treat you seriously. Sad fact of life.

If you want respect from others, you have to earn it and command it. It's not just given out because you're a fellow human being. I've no respect for child molestors, despite their "human being" status.

 

[kimbyra]

I didn't mean to sound like a topic Nazi...
Like I said, I'm part Cherokee so all of y'all are invaders. :grin01:

 

[ghosthousecorns]

I didn't mean to sound like a topic Nazi...
Like I said, I'm part Cherokee so all of y'all are invaders. :grin01:

I'd be extremely proud if I had your heritage.
I have a very small amount of Maya background, but not enough to brag about.
I guess Cornsnake forum may not be the best place for this kind of discussion but it seems to be going smoothly. There's been a couple of threads about religion too I think. In a way it is interesting to see where people stand.
In California where I used to live there was a street corner where the illegals would hang out waiting for work. The contractors that picked them up to pay them less than minimum wage under the table were Americans.
The Mexicans were on one corner, the Central Americans across the street. They didn't like each other much as they were competing for the same jobs... the guys that picked them up did not file taxes or pay benefits to these workers and saved money by not hiring an American. Maybe it would have been less of a problem if the demand for cheap labor were somehow reduced.
I do hate to see American jobs go overseas. But most stuff just isn't made here anymore! If you shop at Walmart just about everything was made in China. Sometimes I wish a chain of 'Anti-Walmart' stores would crop up where everything for sale was made in the U.S. I'd shop there! I have always tried to buy American cars but my chevy was actually assembled in Mexico.
:shrugs:

 

[Taceas]

I have always tried to buy American cars but my chevy was actually assembled in Mexico.

Funny you should say that, my husband works for Toyota and builds the Tundra pickups, Sequoia SUVs, and the Sienna minivans. My own Camry was made about 3-4 hours from here in Kentucky.

Now granted a lot of the parts come from Japan, but they seem to be trying to get away from that for the most part to reduce costs and their dependence on shipping unions (the dockworkers strike in CA almost had them shut down here, that's how close they run on parts).

It just impossible to buy anything anymore that doesn't seem to come from somewhere else. I remember when Walmart's whole stance was "Only American Made, buy American!". Whatever happened to that?

I tend to buy more American made stuff if I can, but it's hard and you do pay more. It'd just be nice if the rest of the people around the world see how they're exploited and stand up and want the same as us. But that probably won't happen any time soon.

 

[kimbyra]

I used to have a Chevy that was Japanese made, and my mother had a Nissan that was American made - go figure.
So I said, the heck with it and bought what I liked; and I REALLY like my Honda Element. (drool)
I do try to support local business' (Keep Austin Weird!) and American made products. Here is a pic of my daughter Lilly and my nephew Nicholas next to the car I love, and my dog in my car.

 

[kimbyra]

Oops... the file was "too large".

 

[kimbyra]

Well here is a pic I got online... if this works.

 

[Bobo's Mama]

Sometimes I wish a chain of 'Anti-Walmart' stores would crop up where everything for sale was made in the U.S. I'd shop there!

There is a store in the mall where I live (Boise, ID), that has stuff in it that is only made in either Idaho or US. The prices are really high, but its still kind of neat to check this place out now and then.

 

[ghosthousecorns]

It's an idea I wish more people would embrace... Instead of waving a flag, puffing your chest, and making a big deal of your patriotism - start buying stuff that was made here in the U.S. by Americans!