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Halloween... what do you believe?

What do you believe in?


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Cflaguy

Old School Snakeman
Well it is the season so I figured I'd ask the question.... what do you believe in. Please vote on the poll and if you wish, ellaborate on your choices or non choices.
 
When I was a kid, I totally believed in Nessie _and_ Big Foot. How sad when people admitted to faking them. I love how the guy that faked Big Foot took the secret to his grave. But then his relatives told. I don't know what to think about crop circles. Fake, I guess. I love the fim Blair Witch Project. I believe in ghosts, and UFOs and aliens and that there is life on other planets (how could there not be?) and I also believe many UFO sightings are secret government stuff.

Nanci
 
O.K. my turn...

1. Bigfoot- not until he is dead and on my plate. We would have found some kind of hard evidence by now.
2. Ghosts- Yes. I had one in an apartment I lived in. I don't believe they are tortured spirits looking for the other side. I believe they do not interact with humans. I believe there are scientific explanations. I can elaborate later if you wish.
3. Loch Ness- No. We would have hard evidence if Nessie was in there. Not enough life in that lake to support a creature that size.
4. Same as above. But also, I've seen pics of ripples in the water and folks going crazy. I've sat lakeside at watched boats go in circles and create the same effect.
5.UFO's- Sure I've seen thing in the sky I couldn't identify. I don't believe they are from another planet or dimension. See #8
6.Aliens- Tough answer for me, I'm outta sequence. See #8.
7.Yes.
8. In this vast universe, there is life somewhere else; maybe in this solar system. But the time it takes to travel solar system to solar system. I don't believe any other civilization visits us. So I have to say yes to aliens.
 
You asked for it....

1. Bigfoot - My shoe size is none of anyone's concern but mine. Oh...sasquatch...No, just another tale to tell the spouse to explain something. The sorry part is, it's been believed!

2. Ghosts - My past keeps haunting me, so I suppose there is some truth in some of it, but there's also plenty of hoaxing going on.

3. Loch Ness monster - With all the technology we have, if we haven't been able to find it in a confined area, it doesn't exist.

4. Other lake monsters - See #3 above. NOTE - Monsters in the oceans are a possibility.

5. UFO's - Unappreciated Flatulent Offense? Hubby commits those all the time. Oh...sorry, wrong UFO...Maybe, but most sightings are baloney. These guys are too good for mere humans to be able to detect them...unless whoever is at the "wheel" is DUI.

6. Aliens - Definitely! Cats are proof of alien life forms here on Earth.

7. UFO's are government aircraft - Does the government know more than they're telling us? Do you really have to ask? But are they smart enough to create them from scratch...you tell me...

8. Life on other planets - To think that we are unique in the universe is beyond conceit. See #6 as well. They came from somewhere...
 
I don't believe in any of it. Then I wonder if I'm gonna be the guy at the start of the horror film saying,"don't worry it's nothing,Look", as he gets ripped by something.
MIKE
 
Good responses Susan...

as far #7 I believe most UFO are military aircraft. For instance, stealth technology was on the drawing boards in the fifties. I think we built them, and we'll see them some day.
 
First let me say, I do not believe most of the reports or sightings for most of these things. I think many of the sightings have been hoaxes constructed by attention seaking people.

However, as far as Bigfoot, the Loch Ness monster and other lake and land "monsters", I think most of these things are based on truths. Just because a group of "scientists" search a relatively small area where the sightings have occured and conclude that since they couldn't find it, in this small area, it can't exist, to me that does not mean it doesn't exist or at one time existed.

I think as we develop further and further into wilderness areas, we will find new species of animals that we didn't know existed, at least at one time.

As far as aliens and U.F.O.'s, I again don't believe most of the sightings. I do believe there is intelligent life beyond our planet. As Susan said, it is very conceited for us to think we are the only intelligent life forms in this universe or beyond.

I also believe, that if we were able to travel to the moon in the short amount of time that we had with the technology, there can be ancient civilizations somewhere who have mastered travelling at much faster speeds or in other ways. Therefore I believe it is possible we have been visited on this planet by aliens. I am not sure what they thought about us when they did visit here.:shrugs:
 
You asked for it......

.......a tad long, but worth a read. Obviously, people will believe what they want and nothing makes anybody "more right" than another. I posted this elsewhere a while back and will just copy/paste here:


Well, this has always interested me due to the fact that it kind of hits close to home. My mother was born and raised in Roswell, NM and has family in and around the surrounding areas. The ranch that is always spoken about in the stories was actually owned by one of my mothers cousins (William Brazel).

Needless to say, I grew up with a lot of interest in these type things and wrote many a book reports on such topics throughout my school days.

The first story/link is a synopsis of the events including Mr. Brazel.
The second story/link is from a recent news report this year and is putting a different perspective on things. Hope you enjoy.

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Major Marcell of the Roswell incidentOn July 2, 1947, just 8 days after the Kenneth Arnold sighting, an amazing turn of events began unfolding in Roswell, New Mexico. It wasn't until over 30 years later that the world began piecing together these amazing events to form a complex puzzle that to this day remains the most controversial and talked about UFO encounter in history. It seems as if an unidentified flying object had crashed in Roswell.

As the world was talking about the Kenneth Arnold sighting, the inhabitants of Roswell, New Mexico saw a large disc shaped object fly over their sleepy town. Some reported that the craft appeared to be in distress. Other reports came in recounting a tremendous explosion.

William Brazel, a rancher in Roswell, was one of the persons who claim to have heard a loud explosion during the night. The next day, William hopped into his truck to search his ranch for any unusual damage and to assure that his cattle were ok. In a remote field on his ranch, William stumbled on a wide field of debris. The debris was scattered over an area 1 mile long and several hundred feet wide. William gathered up some of the debris, loaded in into his truck, and took it back to one of his barns for storage and further study. Brazel noted that amongst the items he recovered were metallic like cloth that would not crease and retained its original shape no matter how tightly it was folded up, metal beams with hieroglyphics on them, metal that looked like balsa wood but could not be dented with a sledgehammer, and extremely strong parchment like paper. Brazel and his son, amazed at the strange qualities of the items he discovered, spent much time playing and tinkering with the objects.

Roswell news release Later, when he heard stories of the flying discs, Brazel alerted the authorities at Roswell of his discovery. Major Jesse Marcel of the Roswell Army-Air Field was sent to investigate. Samples were collected and the area cordoned off. An initial news release was issued by the Army stating that 'the wreckage of a flying disc had been recovered in the Roswell area'.

One particular piece of wreckage gave the authorities problems - a four foot piece that was difficult to transfer. This piece, along with much of the other debris, was transferred under guard to the Carswell Air Force Base in Fort Worth, Texas, bypassing several other bases that were much closer. From there, the wreckage was transferred, again under guard, to Wright Field in Ohio. It was at this time that a second news release was issued - this one rejected the first news release and instead claimed that the wreckage was the remains of a experimental balloon carrying a radar disk.

During this period of about a week, Brazel was retained by the U.S. Army. When he returned home he flatly refused to discuss the incident with anyone only stating that they had scared the hell out of him. But still, parts of the story leaked to the press and were sent out over the teletype wire. When Albuquerque stations KSKW attempted to broadcast the story the FBI interrupted their transmission with an urgent warning - 'Cease transmission. Repeat. Cease transmission. National security item. Do not transmit'.


The Roswell Incident (UFO crash)
 
Dead Airman's Affidavit: Roswell Aliens Were Real

Monday, July 02, 2007


Sixty years ago, a light aircraft was flying over the Cascade Mountains in Washington state, at a height of around 10,000 feet.

Suddenly, a brilliant flash of light illuminated the aircraft.

Visibility was good, and as pilot Kenneth Arnold scanned the sky to find the source of the light, he saw a group of nine shiny metallic objects flying information.

He estimated their speed as being around 1,600 mph — nearly three times faster than the top speed of any jet aircraft at the time.

Soon, similar reports began to come in from all over America.

This wasn't just the world's first UFO sighting — this was the birth of a phenomenon, one that still exercises an extraordinary fascination.

Military authorities issued a press release, which began: "The many rumors regarding the flying disc became a reality yesterday when the intelligence officer of the 509th Bomb Group of the Eighth Air Force, Roswell Army Air Field, was fortunate enough to gain possession of a disc."

The headlines screamed: "Flying Disc captured by Air Force".

Yet, just 24 hours later, the military changed its story and claimed the object it had first thought was a "flying disc" was a weather balloon that had crashed on a nearby ranch.

The key witness was U.S. Army Maj. Jesse Marcel, the intelligence officer who had gone to the ranch to recover the wreckage.

He described the metal as being wafer-thin but incredibly tough.

It was as light as balsa wood, but couldn't be cut or burned.

These and similar accounts of the incident have largely been dismissed by all except the most dedicated believers.

But last week came an astonishing new twist to the Roswell mystery.

Lt. Walter Haut was the public-relations officer at the base in 1947 and was the man who issued the original and subsequent press releases after the crash on the orders of the base commander, Col. William Blanchard.

Haut died in December 2005, but left a sworn affidavit to be opened only after his death.

Last week, the text was released. It asserts that the weather-balloon claim was a cover story and that the real object had been recovered by the military and stored in a hangar.

He described seeing not just the craft, but alien bodies.

He wasn't the first Roswell witness to talk about alien bodies.

Local undertaker Glenn Dennis had long claimed that he was contacted by authorities at Roswell shortly after the crash and asked to provide a number of child-sized coffins.

When he arrived at the base, he was apparently told by a nurse (who later disappeared) that a UFO had crashed and that small humanoid extraterrestrials had been recovered.

But Haut is the only one of the original participants to claim to have seen alien bodies.

Haut's affidavit talks about a high-level meeting he attended with base commander Col. William Blanchard and the Commander of the Eighth Army Air Force, Gen. Roger Ramey.

Haut states that at this meeting, pieces of wreckage were handed around for participants to touch, with nobody able to identify the material.

He says the press release was issued because locals were already aware of the crash site, but in fact there had been a second crash site, where more debris from the craft had fallen.

The plan was that an announcement acknowledging the first site, which had been discovered by a farmer, would divert attention from the second and more important location.

Haut also spoke about a clean-up operation, where for months afterward military personnel scoured both crash sites searching for all remaining pieces of debris, removing them and erasing all signs that anything unusual had occurred.

This ties in with claims made by locals that debris collected as souvenirs was seized by the military.

Haut then tells how Colonel Blanchard took him to "Building 84" — one of the hangars at Roswell — and showed him the craft itself.

He describes a metallic egg-shaped object around 12-15 feet in length and around 6 feet wide.

He said he saw no windows, wings, tail, landing gear or any other feature.

Haut "saw the alien bodies"

He saw two bodies on the floor, partially covered by a tarpaulin.

They are described in his statement as about 4 feet tall, with disproportionately large heads.

Towards the end of the affidavit, Haut concludes: "I am convinced that what I personally observed was some kind of craft and its crew from outer space."

What's particularly interesting about Walter Haut is that in the many interviews he gave before his death, he played down his role and made no such claims.

Had he been seeking publicity, he would surely have spoken about the craft and the bodies.

Did he fear ridicule, or was the affidavit a sort of deathbed confession from someone who had been part of a cover-up, but who had stayed loyal to the end?

The U.S. government came under huge pressure on Roswell in the '90s.

In July 1994, in response to an inquiry from the General Accounting Office, the office of the secretary of the Air Force published a report, "The Roswell Report: Fact Versus Fiction in the New Mexico Desert."

The report concluded that the Roswell incident had been attributable to something called Project Mogul, a top-secret project using high-altitude balloons to carry sensor equipment into the upper atmosphere, listening for evidence of Soviet nuclear tests.

The statements concerning a crashed weather balloon had been a cover story, they admitted, but not to hide the truth about extraterrestrials.

A second U.S. Air Force report concluded that the claims bodies were recovered were generated by people who had seen crash-test dummies dropped from the balloons.

Skeptics, of course, will dismiss the testimony left by Haut.

After all, fascinating though it is, it's just a story. There's no proof.

But if nothing else, this latest revelation shows that, 60 years on, this mystery endures.


FOXNews.com - Dead Airman's Affidavit: Roswell Aliens Were Real

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I also believe, that if we were able to travel to the moon in the short amount of time that we had with the technology, there can be ancient civilizations somewhere who have mastered travelling at much faster speeds or in other ways. Therefore I believe it is possible we have been visited on this planet by aliens. I am not sure what they thought about us when they did visit here.:shrugs:


This is where I differ. According to the laws of physics light speed can't be achieved. I know recently some German scientist say it can but....
Even if it could it would still take hundreds of years to reach these systems we know have planets around them. Of course we don't know if these planets would have life. The same must hold true for any beings living in our universe. I know people go and I quote, "They might be more advanced than we are." So. We must take into consideration the science we know. You can't deny the amount of time it would take to travel. It would take generational ships and hopes nothing went wrong.
 
Ever since I got anal probed by aliens, I BELIEVE!!
Now, I'm just waiting to get my revenge!!


:grin01: Someone had to say it!!

Seriously though.

Ghosts :sure

Other lake monsters: While not monsters persay, I do believe, that some lakes harbor unidentified aquatic species, that are as yet unidentified.
I do Not believe in Nessie, or bigfoot. Although the Weekly World News says I should. (Though, Bigfoot does bare a stricking resemblence to cavemen, and aren't cavemen in Gieco comercials? And getting there own T.v. series? Hmmm?)

I do believe in life on other planets, but why would they want to come here?

Ufo's (unidentified flying objects) are Mostly Govmnt, and/or Private aircraft.
 
This might be long but here goes...
Bigfoot- I am not sure I believe in bigfoot... the footprints could be fake but then that one video... it would be almost imossible to be in a costume (in the like '50s btw) I am sure it would look fake but... it doesn't. So.. who knows... maybe a human stayed hairy...and he eats alot... and grows fast.
Ghosts- Yes. I lived in a house and I believe there was some kind of a spirit in it. I saw a shadow person and I heard people walking on the stairs, people talking in the basement (when I was alone-- I was like 10 so imagine how I felt!) Also once before I went to school I looked in the basement, I thought my mom was home because the light was on and... she was not, infact I saw a shadow and faded feet go across the room. I looked inside... no one. I remember I screamed and ran to school. We moved shortly after that which was a relief.
Loch Ness Monster- No. There are alot of explanations... although maybe a dinosaur survived... but I am not sure.
Other Lake Monsters- No. See above.
UFO's- Yes... because I believe in aliens... and whats inside UFOs? Aliens!
Aliens- Yes. See above. I believe they are another kind of humans, from another planet. And that they are so advanced that they found a way to go across where ever they are and they found... us, Earth. And I think they are exploring to see whats here.
UFO's are government aircraft- I think some are in the shape of UFOs so people think theyre UFOs but they are government aircrafts... but some are not.
Life on other planets- Yes... we are not alone. I am sure. Also see #6.
 
Ghosts: yeah I believe there has to be some sort of afterlife... otherwise "life" is quite a waste if you think about it... all that experience... then nothing? Doesnt make sense.

UFO's and Aliens: Tough one. Life out there most definitely. I've never known nature to waste space, and if we think this tiny piece of space debris we call a planet is the only one with life... we're dead wrong. But the though of civilizations that have already mastered space travel... a bit hard to swallow.

Big Foot? A farce.. but completely possible there are species on this earth that have yet to be discovered due to small populations, territories, and/or geographically isolated areas.
 
I believe in life forms on other worlds, I believe if the life forms are not there anymore due to the world's not being close enough to the sun, or being too close, then i believe our people will eventually find evedence, I mean look how our world has grown in the last 100 years, imagine the next 100? who knows what we will descover, this world was obviasly just made for life to live on..

I believe in ghost's.
 
All of it is a load of hooooiiiieeeeee! IMO! No offense to anyone, just what I believe.

Bigfoot and Nessie --- those I think in theory could be possible. Look in the last 2 years all the new discoveries that have been made of animal species. Now granted, they are frog and fish size, not larger than man or dinosaur size. But over all I think that we would have had more evidence by now if they did exist and that film of bigfoot was faked, it was admitted to.

Ghosts/spirits --- nope, as someone above said, it would be sad to think that this life was all there was and there wasn't an afterlife....well, it would be even sadder to think that now you are some disembodied spirit, floating around flicking lights on and off and making noises in someone's house. (although, now that I think about it, that could be fun!) Actually, I believe what it says in the Bible that it is appointed once for man to die and after that comes the judgement. We are told to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord, so there is no room for ghosts or spirits.

Aliens and UFOs -- no, God made mankind in his image and made him unique. Don't think there is life on other planets however some Christians might disagree and I wouldn't argue (much) with them because it is one of those things that unless you are there, you can't prove one way or another. (but after seeing the Astronaught Farmer, I have started building my own rocket so I'll let you know in a couple of years.)

IMO--- remember that before you start to flame me ---- IMO, I feel that this stuff is mainly people's imaginations, fear that feeds our imaginations and easily spreads, governmental activities that have been covered up (cold war situations ---- plus I don't buy into alot of the conspiracy theories although I believe that there could be truth behind many of them), and just people misinterrupting situations around them. Also, as far as the truly unexplained things that may go on, I would attribute some of that to demonic activities, which would account for the true hauntings.

Again, all of this----IMO (although I am right...;) j/k )
 
I didn't vote, as there's no "none of the above" option.

As an amateur skeptic, I need tangible proof; there may very well be life on other planets, if the conditions are right, such as atmospheric makeup and relative distance to its sun. There may very well be a God as well.

Problem is, we just don't have enough information here. ;)

regards,
BertrandRussell
 
I think some people are...

just assuming life means biped human like life. I'm talking about life. There may be life on some of Saturn's or Jupiter's moons. Bacteria and their kin are life.

There is plenty of evidence to support the existence of ghosts. IMO however, as I stated before they are not tortured spirits looking for the other side. They don't interact with humans. There are scientific reasons.
 
There is plenty of evidence to support the existence of ghosts. IMO however, as I stated before they are not tortured spirits looking for the other side. They don't interact with humans. There are scientific reasons.

??? what are they ??? (scientific reasons?)

I mean real scientific reasoning...not Happy Bob the Ghost Hunter running the Paranormal Research Center out of garage or his mom's basement. I am open to see proof, but where is valid scientific reasons that the general scientific community accepts?
 
I mean real scientific reasoning

Real scientific reasoning is not always right. At one point, scientists believed the earth was flat and that the earth was the center of the universe. They had theories to prove it. Even today, many scientific beliefs are based on theories that can't be proven. An astronomor can point to a star in the sky and say it is 10,000 light years away. They have a formula that says it is so. But that is based on a theory. The distance of the star cannot be proven or disproven beyond a doubt unless we travel to that star and see how long it takes. My point is, we cannot always trust science to be 100% right. Just because the scientific community says something can't or doesn't exist, doesn't mean it is absolutely true. Keep your mind open to imagination.
 
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