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help!!! columbian common boa

wstphal said:
My point about fear was that both mammals and reptiles exhibit the recoil-from-immediate-threat response, and share the same neurobiological substrate for it. To that extent, reptiles have emotions. No, they can't feel fear about the future. But I would have the recoil-from-immediate-threat response if I nearly stepped on a diamondback, and the diamondback would too! LOL.
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Absolutely, ALL animals exhibit fear as an instinctual response to immediate danger. It's absolutely a biological instinct.

It is, however, very different from our personally realized, self-created fears, which are emotional responses to our own cognitive processes. These emotional fears which are based on self-created and percieved threats, rather than actual stimuli, are the emotional fears that animals do not have the capacity for, according to all the major research currently available in the scientific world...except for a book or two...
 
Alright guys, thats enough. Start your own thread or something!! This was NOT supposed to be this topic for this thread. If you want to have your little debate about feelings and animals, go for it, but this thread has been totally hijacked (like Bitsey tried to say earlier). I HOPE the OP comes back to tell us what happened with this snake, but even if they do, they'll have to start a new thread because theres no way that the response would be seen in this monster. Its all just opinion anyway. Chris, you've got some definate opinions, and I dont have to agree with you just because your sure. The same goes for Oren or anyone else who's got a strong opinon on ANYTHING. You've all said your piece (more than once) so whats left to say?
I was interested in this thread when it was the origional topic, but its gotten boring and long winded. Belive what you want. I hope the OP can get a word in edgewise.
 
i didnt mean to start a fight about emotions i'm an emo girl already i simply meant she recognizes i have a positive intention towards her compared to the intentions of the previous owner i can tell by her demeanor that she is more relaxed in my home than where she was being kept in a closet by some uneducated people

the vet said her tail was a rat chew but it looked like they tried to cut it off with a knife in one hacking motion and didn't succeed thats the part that i thought was the dog bite he treated her tail and gave her antibiotics and told me to put this salve on her nose she will be going back for a check up soon

thank you all for helping me with her i know she will be so much happier we are in the process of making her enclosure complete with waterfall and timed mist yay i'm so excited this is going to be so beautiful

i have one question i'm going to feed her rats i breed killed immediately prior to feeding so she doesn't get chewed because i heard it is hard to convert to frozen thawed is there anything better than this to bring some of her color out i heard a koi fish every now and then but is there any validity in that? i would like to see her tail a brighter orange
 
That sounds very hopeful - what excellent news! Sounds like that's one lucky snake to have landed with folks like you. You've obviously had to take a financial hit to take care of her. Hope it works out. Please let us know how you all get on in the coming weeks.

And don't worry - we were just debating the emotion thing rather than arguing. I didn't pick up anything negative in the discussion, it was just an interesting swap of different points of view. My apologies for helping to derail your thread in the process.
 
I'm glad to hear she's doing better! Its great to hear she'll be ok. I'm a little horrified at the idea of a home amputation....anyway. I'm glad she's with you now.
I would focus on getting her healthy before worrying too much about her color...as far as I'm aware, the more healthy the snake the better the colors (keeping in mind some have naturally brighter colors than other). I dont know much about boa's, but theres many members who do. They could tell you if koi were a good idea, but for some reason it doesn't sound right...I've heard of feeding chicks of various kinds...
Anyway. I'm sure you will provide the best of care. Congrats! :)

(ps, you didn't start the argument, it just kind of happens sometimes)
 
envy13 said:
the vet said her tail was a rat chew but it looked like they tried to cut it off with a knife in one hacking motion and didn't succeed thats the part that i thought was the dog bite he treated her tail and gave her antibiotics and told me to put this salve on her nose she will be going back for a check up soon
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That's GREAT news! The vet clearly thinks she is going to be OK.

envy13 said:
i have one question i'm going to feed her rats i breed killed immediately prior to feeding so she doesn't get chewed because i heard it is hard to convert to frozen thawed is there anything better than this to bring some of her color out i heard a koi fish every now and then but is there any validity in that? i would like to see her tail a brighter orange
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Fresh killed is MUCH SAFER than live. Good choice if you breed rats or want to. But once she is healthy I'll bet you can switch her to f/t which is more convenient for you. I don't know anything about colors, but I do know that a lot of types of fish are not good food items for snakes so be really careful to do your research. There are some people here who know a lot about boas & can help you with that.
 
Fantastic news that she is doing better. Well done on taking her to the vet and getting her properly cared for. Kudos to you.

I've never heard of feeding boas Koi fish. I wouldn't feed my boas Koi, they eat a strict rodent diet of mainly rats with the occasionaly hamster when the breeders get too old. I can't think of any correlation between Koi and the snake's color, but I really don't know...

As for converting...Boas are pretty voracious eaters. I don't think you'll have too much trouble converting her, if she readily accepts fresh killed. I've never had a problem with f/t, as long as the prey is hot enough. Like pythons, boas will rely more on the heat sensitive scales to locate their prey than cornsnakes do, so temperature is more important. However, in my experience, they tend to be far less picky than pythons.

Good luck in her recovery, anbd again, well done on getting her properly taken care of. Boas are fantastic pets, and Colombian BCI are my favorites. I think you'll enjoy her.
 
just a quick updated today she moved around a lot more and i'm watching her right now as my husband plays guitar she is very interested
 
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