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Help...Pueblan? or not?

Well, I thought I'd give a quick update on the little pueblan.

We fed her last night, and much to my surprise she downed a hopper like it was nothing, and then gobbled up a pinky for dessert (one that Melony decided she didn't want - I'm still trying to get rid of these last few pinks *sigh*). I think she would've eaten more too if we had let her. I guess she really is capable of eating adult mice with that tiny mouth of hers. I was pretty much amazed.

Jeff has really taken to her, he just loves her, and even named her Candy (you must understand, this is a big deal - Jeff does not name things) because of her shiny banded pattern. He has been showing her off to all his friends, and pretty much anyone who comes to visit us, whether they like snakes, or not. He's just like a little kid. Its actually pretty cute. Anyway, I guess she's here to stay. :)
 
That's great! My Mex eats an adult mouse every week, and I know he would go for two cause he gives me that "is that all?" look every time! I was actually giving him 2 small mice per feeding for a while, but he started looking fat, so I cut him back. It's rewarding to keep a variety of different snakes and although my main interest is in corns, I wouldn't want to be without a few lampropeltis around. Looks like Jeff may be getting the fevuh :grin01:
 
Hmm and to think that I've lived in MI for 25 year and I've never found something like that in my yard :shrugs: That is quite the find I must say. I happen to have a big ole male that is in need of a hot female for a little snake porn action :grin01: Just look at this guy he needs some loving...

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That is one sweet lookin Pueblan! I think I've heard these referred to as "sock heads" when that first white band encroaches on the head like that.
Real nice! :cool:
 
Hahaha, he is a beauty...err...I mean, he's very handsom. If he would like a visit from Candy I'd be more than happy to work something out. Of course, you'd have to verify that she was indeed female; I haven't been able to find my probe set to double check her myself, but I'll keep looking . Your male is really striking though...

Hey, while we're on this topic, what is a suitable breeding weight for pueblans? For females, I mean.

And Mike, I do believe you are right; I think Jeff has the beginnings of snake-fever. See, I knew he was the guy for me:)
 
How large is the Pueblan? (Did I miss it somewhere?) I had a 450g rescue female that would pound one 75-85g small rat per week like clockwork. She was a great feeder, but she could musk like a banshee! Congratulations! Pueblans are by far the coolest looking Milksnake! (IMHO)

Chris
 
Well, she's right around 3 feet - about 36 to 38 inches at most...she was being wiggly when I measured her by hand, and I was being too lazy to use Serp's Snake Measurer. I have yet to weigh her.

A lot of the care sheets that I read seemed to indicate that pueblans get to be only about 3 feet long, is this correct? The reason I ask is that 450 grams seems really substantial for a 3 foot snake, that's why I am beginning to doubt that 3 foot thing...or maybe I am just not used to these crazy milksnakes yet.

I'm sorry I have a million questions guys, but I really want to say thanks to everyone for all your help with my little girl. We are starting to like her an awful lot. They are really cool snakes.
 
I'd be more than happy to work something out. After all he is just sitting here taking up space and i'd really like to try to get some babies out of him. Do you happen to have a weight on your "girl"? Or a guess on her length?
 
Hmm I see you replied in the time it took me to write mine out..yeah I'm slow :rolleyes:

Yeah if she is a female i would say she is big enough to breed with no problems.
 
Bonus! I'll keep looking for my probe set then. And I know nothing about breeding these pueblans other than that its supposed to be "fairly easy." I guess I better get cracking on some more research. Shoot me a PM and we can work out the details, logistics, ect. I need to head to bed now, but I'll try to get in touch soon.:)
 
KatieL said:
Well, she's right around 3 feet - about 36 to 38 inches at most...she was being wiggly when I measured her by hand, and I was being too lazy to use Serp's Snake Measurer. I have yet to weigh her.

A lot of the care sheets that I read seemed to indicate that pueblans get to be only about 3 feet long, is this correct? The reason I ask is that 450 grams seems really substantial for a 3 foot snake, that's why I am beginning to doubt that 3 foot thing...or maybe I am just not used to these crazy milksnakes yet.

I'm sorry I have a million questions guys, but I really want to say thanks to everyone for all your help with my little girl. We are starting to like her an awful lot. They are really cool snakes.

The length sounds about right. This was an adult rescue I received. And she was already around the 400+ gram mark. The original rescuer found her homeless on the streets of NYC. (So I named her Annie.) He had been feeding her very small food items. When i saw her size, I realized larger prey was in order. I eventually sold her (at cost) at almost 500 grams. And that's a very large Pueblan female. Probably one heck of a breeder.

Chris
 
Katie

Pueblans have pretty much the same needs as Corns do when it comes to breeding. The main differences are that they have smaller clutches (5 to 10 eggs) and will often triple and even quadruple clutch in a year.

Bob Applegate has the complete text of his out of print book "The General Care and Maintenance of Milk Snakes" up on his web site http://www.applegatereptiles.com/articles/bookcover.htm It is very informative and a great resource.

~Jeff C.
 
Thanks Jeff! That entire website was a huge help. I've been looking for something like that for a long time now.

It's sure giving me a lot to think about...
 
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