i must say this is terrible

[snakewispera snr]

I know, I think that my experience with false info holds pretty well.

And you hung in there and became part of the team. So being the one with the hands on experience, as a reward for sticking around, if you shout troll at him we will follow O master of the troll board....LOL

 

[Rich Z]

There is nothing at all with being wrong. Treat it as an opportunity to learn something new, not a smack on the face for just not knowing everything. Everyone is ignorant about more things than they know. Everyone has something more to learn and there is more to learn than there is time in your lifetime to learn it all.

Never be afraid to say in public "I don't know". Never be afraid to admit that you are wrong when proof is provided that you are. You will then know more than you did a few minutes ago and be the better person for it.

 

[Joejr14]

Wanna know what the OP's problem is? Dude lives in Gainesville. 'Nuff said.

 

[TandJ]

Matthew blathered of some silly post..

Wait?!? So I shouldn't have just force fed my snake a carrot?

No fool, you really need to try mashed carrots, it adds so much more drama to the whole situation, and so much easier on a carnavoirs internals to digest it.. *lol* What were you thinking.. Course we might have another one to add to my black book of winners!

Regards.. Tim of T and J

 

[tom e]

I wonder if he read a bunch of posts before joining.. Could have missed the pics that way and not realized the posts about veggies were referring to a bearded dragon. Lots of times we refer to our animals by their names and not necesarilly species.. Who knows what makes some people tick, lol.

 

[Susielea]

I wonder if he read a bunch of posts before joining.. Could have missed the pics that way and not realized the posts about veggies were referring to a bearded dragon. Lots of times we refer to our animals by their names and not necesarilly species.. Who knows what makes some people tick, lol.

I think you may have hit the nail on the head right there

 

[tyflier]

From my own experience, when you provide false info it is normally said to be so by other members, and I think that most others would agree.

This is the best reply in the whole thread!

Patm, if ANYone can talk with experience about being corrected, it's you, my friend. And I am honestly glad you hung in there, got yourself squared away, and are now a member in good standing. It takes a real man to admit his mistakes and learn from them...

On the other hand...the OP is not going to last long me thinks. In this forum OR in this hobby. If he believes this place to be full of innaccurate and dangerous information regarding snakes, well...I'd really be afraid of what advice he IS taking...

 

[LBoz]

There is nothing at all with being wrong. Treat it as an opportunity to learn something new, not a smack on the face for just not knowing everything. Everyone is ignorant about more things than they know. Everyone has something more to learn and there is more to learn than there is time in your lifetime to learn it all.

Never be afraid to say in public "I don't know". Never be afraid to admit that you are wrong when proof is provided that you are. You will then know more than you did a few minutes ago and be the better person for it.

I think this is one of the best posts I've read on any forum. I LOVE it! Reminds me of Jeffrey Deaver's "Lincoln Rhyme" books. Sachs would always say to the rookie, "You didn't know, but now you do."

 

[Susan]

I think we will be a better forum with this guy gone. In 2 of his 5 posts, he says that a snake can go 6 months without food as long as it's hydrated. I'd like to see a neonate survive 6 months without a meal or a breeding female that laid her first clutch, ate once, refused everything else, double-clutched and is now only 200 grams when she was 450 grams out of brumation, and still refusing to eat everything offered. Force-feeding that female a couple of small meals in an attempt to "jump-start" her is not wrong, IMO. And I just recently told a newbie whose female has not been eating and just double-clutched to try force-feeding if she continued to refuse several more meals. I've lost 2 females this year due to refusing meals and double-clutching, and have a couple more I'm watching closely for the same reason. If my thinking and advice is totally wrong, someone please tell me as I don't want to lose any more snakes this year.

 

[ghosthousecorns]

I think we will be a better forum with this guy gone. In 2 of his 5 posts, he says that a snake can go 6 months without food as long as it's hydrated. I'd like to see a neonate survive 6 months without a meal or a breeding female that laid her first clutch, ate once, refused everything else, double-clutched and is now only 200 grams when she was 450 grams out of brumation, and still refusing to eat everything offered. Force-feeding that female a couple of small meals in an attempt to "jump-start" her is not wrong, IMO. And I just recently told a newbie whose female has not been eating and just double-clutched to try force-feeding if she continued to refuse several more meals. I've lost 2 females this year due to refusing meals and double-clutching, and have a couple more I'm watching closely for the same reason. If my thinking and advice is totally wrong, someone please tell me as I don't want to lose any more snakes this year.

Rather than knocking you for it, I would love a bit of advice on how to force feed adults. I have a female I am worried about, she is refusing meals, ate once since laying the first clutch and is now in blue so I think may be about to have a second one. If she doesn't get hungry after that I may need to force feed her, I have only done so with babies (and none of which have lived afterwards but I don't want to lose this one adult if I can help it...)
As for OP good riddance if he read one thread about feeding vegetables and assumed it was a snake being discussed (but I suspect a troll)

 

[Drizzt80]

What this thread needs is a little sprinkle of . . .

D80

 

[Blue Apple Herps]

Matthew blathered of some silly post..



No fool, you really need to try mashed carrots, it adds so much more drama to the whole situation, and so much easier on a carnavoirs internals to digest it.. *lol* What were you thinking.. Course we might have another one to add to my black book of winners!

Regards.. Tim of T and J

I thought that mashed carrots were only used after a regurge, and that raw carrots (sometimes dipped in ranch dressing for extra nutrients) were used for otherwise healthy corns?

 

[LBoz]

I thought that mashed carrots were only used after a regurge, and that raw carrots (sometimes dipped in ranch dressing for extra nutrients) were used for otherwise healthy corns?

I'm ashamed to admit that I follow Jessica Seinfeld's "Deliciously Nutritious" recipes. I hide butternut squash and green bean puree inside my mice prior to feeding. He seems much happier now and never refuses his veggies.
Next week: Mice sauteed in broccoli and zucchini puree. I'll keep ya posted! :grin01:

 

[Maize411]

Wow...lol...This thread is definitely the most interesting one I've read all day. I can't believe that guy was so ignorant to just state that comment. I mean yes everyone is entitled to their own opinion but if your going to state something like that then at least back it up with some proof or corrections or something...I joined this site the first night I got my first snake and have loved it ever since. I now have 3 corn snakes and all of them are thriving happily. This site has helped me through many issues that I would not have known how to correct otherwise and everybody on here is soo nice and respectful. It just offends me when someone has the audacity to insult such a great source of information and such a friendly community.

As for the carrot thing...I prefer stuffing the mice with smoothie stirred fruits. Gives them their vitamins ya know :0) heheheheh

 

[Allison]

His sudden absence and lack of care to back up his statements goes back to my original comment about boredom.
I love this forum! I have been looking around in here for years. Everyone is extremely knowledgeable and fun to talk to. I have learned TONS of information since my very first corn back in 2000.
Not to mention that I LOVE looking at everyone's fantastic collections! :cheers: :cheers:

 

[ForkedTung]

maybe he'll be gone for six months without losing any significant weight, just so long as he has fresh water:sidestep:

 

[Susan]

Rather than knocking you for it, I would love a bit of advice on how to force feed adults. I have a female I am worried about, she is refusing meals, ate once since laying the first clutch and is now in blue so I think may be about to have a second one. If she doesn't get hungry after that I may need to force feed her, I have only done so with babies (and none of which have lived afterwards but I don't want to lose this one adult if I can help it...)
As for OP good riddance if he read one thread about feeding vegetables and assumed it was a snake being discussed (but I suspect a troll)

The procedure is the same as for a hatchling, you just need a larger meal and an extra pair of hands is a plus (although knees work well to keep the lower half of the snake controlled). I really love pinky rats for this process in adults. I personally like using a metal feeding tube (ball tip) to help work the meal in and then to push it gently as far down the throat as the tube will allow to help prevent the snake from bringing the meal back up again. I always use a whole meal (unless it's a very tiny hatchling that can only handle a pinky head) and work maneuver it like I see snakes normally swallow their prey (that side-to-side "creeping" up the meal thing), applying gentle pressure to keep the snake's mouth closed while I switch sides. Once the meal in entirely inside the mouth, I gently push it down (having a wet meal helps to slide it down), pull the tube out and place the snake in it's viv where it 95% of the time swallows it the rest of the way. If I get lucky, an adult will not make me use the entire technique and will swallow the meal on it's own after I just start it.

 

[Nanci]

Wanna know what the OP's problem is? Dude lives in Gainesville. 'Nuff said.

Hey, I resemble that remark!! No, wait, I only work there.

 

[Nanci]

OT FOR JEN

Rather than knocking you for it, I would love a bit of advice on how to force feed adults. I have a female I am worried about, she is refusing meals,

Jen, My adult Lila was refusing for MONTHS for no apparent reason. Finally, a few weeks ago, she took a FT rat pup. Good, I thought. I tried her with a fuzzy the next time and no way. So a couple days ago I was feeding the babies, and had some pinks and fuzzies thawed out. Lila was poking her head out, watching me, so I offered her a FT day old pink off the forceps (didn't want to get bit if she actually took it!) and she took that pink like she'd been starved since February! (Which she had!) So then I offered her one of the fuzzies, and she took that, and then another, and another. Maybe _now_ her strike is broken.

I could probably make a video of assist-feeding Addy, and link you to it. PM me if you would like that.

 

[ruraldean]

Awwwww come on people. What's the first rule of troll defence? NEVER FEED THE TROLL! This pillock has had 6 pages to fuel his masturbatory fantasies so far. The poor bloke must be worn out...

Have a heart. Let him die.