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Is the "Blue" moose color dominant?

JenC

JenC

Missin her snakes
Jeeezus, moose genetics are even harder to follow than snakes!

OK! I have a "Blue" male moose(he's got red eyes), and a white female, both from the same litter (chocolate male X red/fawn female). I bred the "Blue" boy to the white female, expecting just white babies..and i got some very funky stuff! Unfortunately, she only had 11 and i fed off 8 as pinks but kept 3..and my lord!

White Mom
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"Blue" Dad
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The three remaining babies (females, i believe)

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There is one blue one that has a white belly, one whiteish one, and one with blue spots (i think) The parents of the blue and white have been throwing some "tiger" looking babies lately..so maybe thats where the spots came from? But i dont kno! These guys got me so confused!
 
i believe the "blue" is just a silver or grey strain... something that i hope to introduce to my mooses soon enough.

Lovely little babies, i have to start culling soon :( *sniff*
 
Tula_Montage said:
i believe the "blue" is just a silver or grey strain... something that i hope to introduce to my mooses soon enough.

Lovely little babies, i have to start culling soon :( *sniff*
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Well no the "blue" i believe is called "Champagne" but i like the term "Blue" LOL

It sucks havein to kill such cuties eh? Thats why i only kill pinkies:(
 
I have a couple of my fawns in the freezer atm :(
I am thinking of giving tallulah a live one, but then why feed live when she already has a great f/t feeding response.
 
I plan to :p
My mooses are so huge now, i dont want to feed them off :(

Planning on sexing the rest today, i already have 3 keepers picked, lets hope they are female.
 
If they are siblings and one is blue then the other is het for blue (or whatever it's called). If it was dominant then one of the parents would have had to have been "blue" as well.

Very nice colors there. I've got 2 litters at 3-5 days right now so I'm eagerly awaiting seeing their coats come in.

The only way you would get ALL white babies is if BOTH parents were albino. I believe fawn is dominant so you should have had about half fawn in that same litter.
 
JenC said:
Jeeezus, moose genetics are even harder to follow than snakes!

OK! I have a "Blue" male moose(he's got red eyes),
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That makes dad a "Dove" or a "Silver" - pink-eyed dilute black or pink-eyed dilute black with blue dilute added on - he's probably a Dove given his parentage. But the photo makes him look more of a warm colour - like Champagne, which is chocolate with the pink eyed dilution. The colour called Blue in mice has dark eyes and is only a slightly faded black.

and a white female, both from the same litter (chocolate male X red/fawn female). I bred the "Blue" boy to the white female, expecting just white babies..and i got some very funky stuff! Unfortunately, she only had 11 and i fed off 8 as pinks but kept 3..and my lord!
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I'm pretty sure that pink-eyed white is a straightforward recessive. Therefore, if they're siblings, you'd expect to get some PEWs, but certainly not all PEW. Self black (which is genetically what Dove or Silver is, with dilutions laid over the top) is dominant to PEW as far as I know.

If dad was a chocolate and mom was a fawn, we know that Dad was het for the pink-eyed dilution or you wouldn't have had a dove/silver offspring. Mom won't have been chocolate-based under the masking colour Fawn (or you'd have had a chocolate or champagne male). She could, however, have been anything else, because chocolate's recessive.

There is one blue one that has a white belly, one whiteish one, and one with blue spots (i think) The parents of the blue and white have been throwing some "tiger" looking babies lately..so maybe thats where the spots came from? But i dont kno! These guys got me so confused!
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The brindle (spotty one) is almost certainly from a recessive brindle gene out of the parents/etc. The white could be a PEW. The blue one with the white belly may turn out to be something nice like a Silver Tan or Lilac Tan.
 
Wow thanks Ssthisto. The female (fawn) waas in with another male before i purchased her, so its very possible the first litter she gave me wasnt with this male..explaining the "champagne" offspring.

thanks for your Novel :) It helped explain it a bit better than me lol
 
I like genetics overall, so I tend to be a bit geeky when it comes to various species.

It just gets complicated when you get into the mouse Agouti locus, because they seem to use the word 'dominant' to mean something completely different than what I understand it to mean in genetics anywhere else... namely:

"The tan gene is recessive on the back but dominant on the belly of the mouse".

No! No, no no! It's one or the other, it's a pattern mutation and not a colour one... and if you can get an Agouti (dominant) Tan then tan looks like it's a dominant pattern gene, not a recessive one.

Almost as complex as the nine million kinds of hypomelanistic-effect genes in corns!
 
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