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Moderation Lunacy

Joejr14

Joejr14

Grand Bubble Burster
I know what you all are thinking, but no, this isn't about Dean, Susan or Mike. Heck, it's not even about Rich. ;)

As some know, I tend to occasionally pop in and visit Reptilerooms.com just for the hell of it. It's normally after I read all of the 'new posts' here and get bored. Anyway, they are now strictly enforcing this new rule:

Just a note on Posting Images, a new rule is to be enforced as from now. NO feeding pictures which involve mammals, or other reptiles being consumed are allowed. This has had to be enforced, as recently, more and more pictures have been posted, which seem to offend people, especially when a lizard is eating another lizard, and some people on the site keep the lizard which is being eaten as pets. Moderators will remove these pictures upon seeing them, and the user will be warned. Insect feeding pictures are fine.
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So I saw this 'new rule', and I'm sure you all know my response. I voiced my opinion in a stickied thread in the cornsnake part of the forum---discussed it back and forth a few times with a mod---and then it disappeared.

I checked my PM the next day to find this:

Joe

Please do not cause problems because a moderator added something that HAS ALWAYS been the situation here. MANY people do not want to see one animal eating another one. Yes it may be nature. It is nature for crocs to eat dogs, for people to drown, for tigers to enter or hang around villages to make off with young children and for dingos to enter tents and make off with baby humans. It is also natural for people to become attached to their pets, at least it is with lizards and mammal owners, maybe not with snake owners, I really do not know, I have snakes, but then I am not atttached to them so maybe you can not understand that feeling. But it is common sense not to display photos of any of the above being eaten by another animals.

It is not just someone's 12 year old kid, there are MANY adults that do not want to see it either. There are more complaints from adults alone than from someone's mother and you can display your snakes fine without having to show them eating something

Thank you

CheriS
Admin
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I thought that answer was lame, so I replied with:

Cheri-

While I respect your decision and that of the admin of this website, I strongly disagree with it and think it's catering to the vast minority of this website. How many active members do you have on this website? How many members have complained about seeing a feeding picture?

To me, it would make perfect sense if there was a rat or mouse person who didn't like to see snakes eating mice---they wouldn't post on a board that was devoted to reptiles. I understand that people become attached to their pets, and that's totally understandable. However, a mouse that has been in my freezer for 4 months was not someones pet, nor is it a specific poster's pet. I honestly do not see why anyone would complain about seeing feeding pictures, other than the fact that they need something to complain about. I honestly think it is completely ridiculous to outlaw feeding pictures on this website. Many people with large collections have the camera out when it's feeding time---because that's when it's easiest to photograph 50+ snakes. It is certainly easier to be taking pictures when the snakes have to be out than it is to pull out every snake when it's not a feeding or cleaning day.

However, that brings me to my other question that I asked and was deleted. What about snake 'porn'? If feeding pictures are getting complaints, than I would certainly assume that people would just about freak out if someone posted pictures of their snakes 'doing it'. However, many newbies to the hobby have no idea how snakes do it and many people enjoy seeing the pictures? So, are those allowed, or no?

I would really hope that the moderators and the admin of this website reconsider on the feeding shots 'ban'. I think you are doing a vast disservice by catering to the few people who happen to complain about them. There are other ways around the complete ban, which would be beneficial to all. A simple rule of stating that feeding pictures must have that noted in the thread title would be more than satisfactory in warding off people who have huge problems seeing a snake eat a mouse. Just a suggestion....
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I thought that was a polite response, and soon enough I had another PM waiting for me...

Joe

You seem to miss totally the fact that has been the status here for 5 years and you never felt you had to bitch or comdemn others for their feelings about it before.

MOST people have the common sense and good grace to know that others may find it distrubing and never post them so there has never been an issue with it.

MOST people can display and show off their pets for others to appreciate without having to have it eating what other people consider pets.

I can not imagine that you are so stupid you can not see that whether it is their ACTUAL pet or one that looks like, some people find a anole being eaten or a bearded dragon being chopped in half disturbing and would rather not see it when they are reading a post or admiring someone elses pet

aS far as mating pictures, if they were on the site and several people complained about them, yes, I would have them removed. I do not need to see them "doing it" to get the idea, but I have no problems with photos of it if others do not either.

This site exist to help others. THats the bottom line and seeing a snake or monitor eating a lizard or rabbit is not helping anyone normally. Yet is may distress some.... so no, they do not need to be on here.

"fact that they need something to complain about" yes, some people will jump on anything just cause the feel they need something to complain about

CheriS
Admin
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Of course my first thought after reading that was, "well you're a ^%&*#". My second thought was, thank god CS.com isn't run like this. It kills me that their forum 'rules' state that 'members should post in a way that is respectful with other users and this site'. Funny, I guess that doesn't apply to the admins of the website. Of course I replied back, called her out for calling me stupid---and surprise surprise---no response back. That's not the first time I've gotten into it with a mod over there---challenged them on something and had no response.

Anyway, that aside, what do you all think of the 'no feeding pictures' rule. I'm curious to see if you guys have the same reaction and thoughts on the matter that I do...
 
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Alright I admit it right now I was too lazy to read all of that.

But... :bang:
That's just...ridiculous...I could see maybe asking to put some sort of tag in the topic title or something if they've gotta be that anal about it..but...
ITS A REPTILE BOARD!
I would understand if it was like...a pet rat forum and someone was posting all these pictures of raised feeder rats.
But...just...wow, that's when you can tell that people's control has gone to their head. They start to ignore sheer reason and logic.
Good Ridance.
 
Oh and I know a few people who keep inverts as friends, so if they're going to say no feeding of mammals or reptiles then they shouldn't show the insects being eatten either.
At least show solidarity in their stupidity. :flames:
 
I would have the exact same reaction. Its completely ridiculous. Why go near reptile forums or keep reptiles if you cannot accept every aspect that comes with their husbandry!!!??

People never cease to amaze me...

I have kept fancy mice, rats, hamsters a lot longer than snakes. I got into breeding them on a large scale for the snakes. I have no problems with spinal dislocation and slapping them off walls to prepare them for the freezer then feed them to my hungry snakes :shrugs: I think you will find there are many rodent lovers/breeders on these forums that find keeping snakes is the perfect hobby to couple with rodents.
 
That's why I stopped visiting reptilerooms about a year ago. Someone posted great feeding shots and got told off, and I thought it was hypocritical to such an extreme that I stopped posting there and then stopped visiting.
 
Oh and what the HECK did that mod get off comparing feeding a snake to a tiger dragging off a child in an indian village. Granted yes it's still a fact of life but the later is a lot more gruesome and is just..not the same as admiring your snake performing it's life function in a controlled environment.

Can anyone else telled that I'm getting riled up? :sidestep:
 
"NO feeding pictures which involve mammals, or other reptiles being consumed are allowed."

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Checkerbelly said:
"NO feeding pictures which involve mammals, or other reptiles being consumed are allowed."

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WOOHOO man, fight the POWER!!!

That's ridiculous, I would've handled it the same way.
 
Whew! I had to brace myself when I saw that thread title. ;)

I don't care how long the rule's been in place; it's stupid. It's like denying one of the most important aspects of keeping carnivorous reptiles. But I'm not surprised that emotional complaints prompted the rule. At one time there was a thread here with either a photo or the link to a photo of a king eating an adult corn. I think it was from RaysReptilia.com. There was a lot of negative reaction to it. Heck, my initial reaction to seeing it was emotional and negative. But my rational side kicked in, and I was more concerned about the risk to the king from the size of the meal.

Someone tell Mike B. to stay out of the Reptile Rooms! :grin01:
 
I really love cows and I find this image very disturbing! This sort of thing needs to be banned from this forum!
 
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And I apologize to all the pepper lovers out there. I did not mean to get them upset!
 
Susan, how could you? Our very own moderator, you know my mom doesn't allow me to see these kind of images!
 
Absolutely ridiculous !!! It is natural behavior for a snake to eat this way and why would you not be able to share pictures of this. Sounds like typical left wing liberalism to me. The minority making the rules for the majority, I don't get it. :bang: Thats the problem with everything now a days. Too many people trying to be politically correct because they are afraid of whose feelings will be hurt. I know that profanity isn't allowed here but this is utter B******T ! Kind of funny how this reflects on other things that are going on in the world today. :shrugs:
Jay :cool:
 
Wow that is pretty crazy, although I have to point out that they didn't really target snakes specifically. Although I have never owned a lizard I have watched some videos of them eating and I have to say it seems that some lizards are a lot more gruesome than a snake. But in any case I pity the poor animals owned by the people who complain...being forced to eat tofu like that :(


---Kenny
 
Checkerbelly said:
"NO feeding pictures which involve mammals, or other reptiles being consumed are allowed."

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Lol, I knew someone would find a loop hole.... but then the bird people might complain.... I guess only the "Snake Sausage" kid will be able to post feeding pics over there...
 
I'm sure someone will rip into me for my opinion but my love for reptiles means I would be horrified to see pictures of one lizard eating another because some person gets a kick out of it. Animals eat each other in the wild for various reasons and that's just life, but I am one of those people who would get upset if I saw pictures of humans torturing or pitting animals against each other.

A frozen mouse is one thing (we love our snakes so we do what we have to do to put food in their bellies) but Cheri's email leads me to believe she has to ban all feeding pics because a few people keep complaining. As a site admin, she *has* to ban feeding pics of every type otherwise people will bug her saying things like, "So we can't post feeding pics but the snake people can? That's unfair!" We all know that's exactly what would happen. I've never been to that site and I don't know Sheri so I'm just guessing she has a few complainers (thanks to people posting pics of what only can be described as animal abuse) who are VERY vocal about the feeding pics so this is (in her opinion) the best way to deal with the complainers.

Personally I would've just instated a rule saying people must put 'Graphic content' or something in the thread title so that people can't whine if they saw it because they chose to click the link even though there was a warning. That just seems like a better way to handle it rather than outlaw everything and get a whole new group of complainers in exchange for appeasing the original complainers.

That's just my opinion.
I also think it should be illegal to use the word 'complainers' as often and as badly as I just did.
 
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