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My growing collection

I got another one that isn't a sibling to her....his pattern is more extreme and so is his attitude! I got the female a few months ago and she has really improved, I think she'll be sweet eventually. But she was prepared to kill when I opened that cup!
 
Because she chews on me I think her bites are more of an out of control feeding response. When she eats she thrashes around and bangs the poor mouse carcass all over the walls of the tub like she's Bamm-Bamm from the Flintstones.
 
Very unhappy male ERO. Finally got him calmed down enough to stop flattening his head and looking like a viper.
 
But... we like the triangle head hateling shots!

Somebody forgot to put some red on that snake... it's all covered up with white. ;)
 
I know, Steve gets tired after tattooing all the orange on those blizzards and then he just gives up and calls them extreme! :laugh:
 
Diffused showing off his belly checkers with an anery motley.


He has some white patches on his sides but I don't know enough about pied-sidedness to know if he is low expression or if this happens in nonpied bloodreds.
 
He was sold to me as an inexpensive diffused. Strange that they gave me a low expression pied, but I won't complain! He was a nonfeeder though, but I was able to get him going.

In a similar vein, I got these two colorful "???" snows (that I posted in another thread) for the price of a regular snow, can't wait to see them color up!
 
Dustin, I think you have the most _variety_ in a "growing collection" that I've ever seen.
(Your genetics background, visible in several places on the forum, is certainly something to be proud of, and is a prize/gift to the rest of us here on the forum.)
 
vetusvates said:
Dustin, I think you have the most _variety_ in a "growing collection" that I've ever seen.
(Your genetics background, visible in several places on the forum, is certainly something to be proud of, and is a prize/gift to the rest of us here on the forum.)
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Thanks. I have a room dedicated to them and it's hard not to justify filling it up!
As for the genetics background, never in a million years did I think it would be more than passingly relevant. I mean, what were the odds of observing z-linkage due to suppressed crossing over after only being a member here for a few months, LOL...my head still hurts. I've been in contact with a snake expert and maybe it can even turn into a small publication. I also can't thank Walter enough for being so generous with any info I've needed!
 
Note : (And the observation has been made before and by others,) that no-to-low-to-medium-to-high-piedness seems to coincide with an extreme-type-of-diffusion state of affairs. And the piedness (and degree) does not seem to be perfectly obedient as a traditional recessive gene. This is likely not new news to you.
But I would be interested in hearing your ruminations.
 
I think I did already but can't remember which thread I posted it on! Yes it does seem only to manifest in high quality bloodreds (yay for scoring one cheap!). I don't know a ton about it so this is just speculation. Many traits don't show the clean dominant/recessive relationships we take for granted. Some genes exhibit what is termed variable penetrance (the allele only gives you a certain probability of having the trait) and variable expressivity (two individuals with the same mutation will vary in the severity of the phenotype). Basically genes don't act in isolation. Two siblings that are low vs high expression for pied will differ at many other loci in their genome because they are not identical twins of each other. These other genes can influence the phenotype in subtle ways and are called "modifiers." Even if the two snakes are identical twins, they could differ in their degree of expression because the underlying developmental process of migration of the pigments cell precursors has an element of randomness to it. This is why two identical twin snakes won't have identical patterns.
 
Sunkissed stripe. The breeder neglected to mention that she is missing the end of her tail or that she is bugeyed. Needless to say, I'll never buy from them again. She is very sweet though.

Missing tail tip:




This picture doesn't show it as well as I would like, but she is bugeyed. She wouldn't keep her head still so I'll have to take a pic while she is resting in her tub.
 
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