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Celticcorn

Celticcorn

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Hi All I just aquired a caramel corn. I don't live where corns are idigenous I live in Rhode island There is a local woodland walk area part of the parks and recreation area that I go for walks with my 6yo son to do a kind of capture and release to check out the local wild life. There are many Garter snakes in the area and we see them basking on the dam of the pond, as we were walking we saw a large brownish snake sitting on the wall. I scooped him up 99% sure this was not a local snake. It turns out it was a Caramel corn snake definitely not part of the local snake populations way far north of it's range and I believe Caramels are not a normal variation of wild corns. I have talked to other visitors of this place and it seems to be a favorite place for people to let go unwanted pets especially Snapping turtles there is a huge population of these. So I am pretty sure some one let this guy go . It is very tame to handle after it settled down for about an hour or so. I gave it a nice set up with the right stuff a friend is a snake keeper. it looks to be in the process of molting so I gave it a nice bath to clean it up and hydrate the skin. It seems to be quite happy now after being rescued from what I was sure was going to be a horrible demise especially when winter came on.
Dwight
 
I want pics how cool is that!! If its in blue you don't have to bathe it they will shed on their own in a week or so. Hopefully you won't have trouble feeding it frozen thawed and it is free of mites and parasites, but do keep an eye out for these things. Again sweet find and good luck:)
 
Wow, that's awesome. Congrats on the great find and rescue. It's great that the little guy was able to come across a caring owner. =) Oh, and welcome to the forum! =) You've joined a great community.
 
That is a cool find! I can't wait to see pics! That would be a very cool find! I am not trying to rain on your parade though and I am sorry if I come across that way, but be careful. A lot of people mistake Eastern Milks as Corns. I can see that coloration could be a wee bit similar, but just a heads up, just in case. If it is a Corn, then I am very happy for you!

Good Luck!

Wayne
 
medusacoils said:
That is a cool find! I can't wait to see pics! That would be a very cool find! I am not trying to rain on your parade though and I am sorry if I come across that way, but be careful. A lot of people mistake Eastern Milks as Corns. I can see that coloration could be a wee bit similar, but just a heads up, just in case. If it is a Corn, then I am very happy for you!

Good Luck!

Wayne
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No It's definetly a corn I had it looked at by a couple snake people who own corns. The snake looks exactly like my avatar. It has the reversed heart on head checker board pattern on stomach and Milks I belive have bands of patterns as opposed to patches of color. and wild milk snakes of this size would be aggressive this little guy is as mellow as can be. but thanks for the heads up I thought about Milks at first and they are in my Audubon book on snakes lizards and such but similar but not the same as corns.
Dwight
 
Hello and welcome!
I live in RI too! This state definately needs more snake people, I think :)

And please take a load of pics of this little one! I would be really to see them!
 
Celticcorn said:
No It's definetly a corn I had it looked at by a couple snake people who own corns. The snake looks exactly like my avatar. It has the reversed heart on head checker board pattern on stomach and Milks I belive have bands of patterns as opposed to patches of color. and wild milk snakes of this size would be aggressive this little guy is as mellow as can be. but thanks for the heads up I thought about Milks at first and they are in my Audubon book on snakes lizards and such but similar but not the same as corns.
Dwight
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I am not saying that it is definitely a Milk snake. Just to keep a heads up, because some people, even the snake savvy ones, can get it wrong. They aren't that dis-similar to corns. They can have belly checkering, saddles or bands and head markings that are similar to corns and have variations in their coloring.

One thing I will point out that you are wrong about though, just because milks are wild, doesn't mean they are always aggressive. I have two Milks, and both are wild caught. One is a little wormy when you first pick her up, but she settles down, the other is very docile.

Here is a pick of Wichita a 0.1 Eastern Milk Snake;

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I have only had her for about three weeks now. She has been very docile, from the beginning. Actually, she let me pick her right up off the ground, when I found her. She is almost 4 feet now.

Here is another link, in case you want to see more pics.

http://www.cornsnakes.com/forums/showthread.php?t=84712&highlight=Eastern


Wayne
 
Very pretty snake! I can see there is a close resemblance they are both rat snakes right? I've had two snake people look at it who own corns and they say it's a corn and it looks like a Corn from the pics Iv'e seen So far 99.99% corn snake I have to go with it's a corn. In any case I am happy with my find no matter what it is. I'll post a pic soon I hope
Dwight
 
Celticcorn said:
Very pretty snake! I can see there is a close resemblance they are both rat snakes right? I've had two snake people look at it who own corns and they say it's a corn and it looks like a Corn from the pics Iv'e seen So far 99.99% corn snake I have to go with it's a corn. In any case I am happy with my find no matter what it is. I'll post a pic soon I hope
Dwight
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Very Cool! Like I said and I am sorry if I came across a bit pushy, not my intention, It's easy to mistake them. I really hope that you found a Corn, because that would be really cool. Especially since they are not indigenous to your area. What really gets my goat is that people think they have to release non-indigenous species into the wild, when there are so many avenues that they can take to find the unwanted pet a new home. For crying out loud, you can even put it for free on Craigslist. Either way, I am glad she found you! Now you can give her the proper treatment and care, so she can live a long, healthy and happy life!

Can't wait to see the pics!

Wayne
 
Well Medusacoils it appears you are correct. after shedding the snake looks exactly like the picture you posted. I guess snake IDing is a very confusing process. From what I saw online and in the books it appeared that all milk snakes are banded not saddle patterns. This snake looks like it should be classified with corns not milks although they are all rat snakes anyway right? Although it is a pretty snake the thrill is pretty much less than if it was a corn. I will probably return it to where I got in the fall because it is a native species as I do with any other native creatures I collect to observe and release I am afraid that it won't eat and snakes that eat mice and rats can be picking eaters from what I understand. My littles garters pretty much whoof anything down worms frogs crickets etc that I catch from my yard which is easier that dealing with rodents
Dwight
 
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