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Jon_without_H

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Hey all

Well my name is Jon and i am starting to get binto corn snakes. I have narrowed it down to either a bloodred corn or a creamsickle. Right now I am just going to buy one female so i can get used to just taking care of one of them then work my way up to two females then a male. Now can i house two females in the same cage? I would suspect if i could that i would have to have a bigger tank then just a 20g. I know i have to keep the male seperate unless i am breeding and i dont want to get into bredding for a good six months. But when i do start breeding do i have to remove one of the females then leave the male and female alone? Also I read in another post about the book by the love's. I was wondering where i could pick that up. And i also learned that simon fung is going out a business so i will probably be waiting till the next toronto reptile show or buy one from somone around the stratford ontario area. I am thinking about building two cages. Probably 2'x2'x2' then i will put a screan ontop and then have a door on the front that opens. And i know that corns need a lot of humidity especailly when they are sheding. So i am thining i will buy two misteres. Saposily they give really high humiity. Now how long and how many times a day should i put that on for? Right now i have four crested geckos and i use a mister and it only goes on once a day because my timer sucks. And for heating i know you are sapose to have only have the cage heated. So i was thinking of using that heat rope that you use for your roof during the winter and then i will put it on a thermostate. But i know the heat wont go through the wood so i would have to router into the wood and then put a piece of glass over top. Now if any of you have any suggestions or see any problems with what i am going to be doing please inform me. Thanks a bunch!

Jon
 
Jon_without_H said:
Hey all

Well my name is Jon and i am starting to get binto corn snakes. I have narrowed it down to either a bloodred corn or a creamsickle. Right now I am just going to buy one female so i can get used to just taking care of one of them then work my way up to two females then a male. Now can i house two females in the same cage? I would suspect if i could that i would have to have a bigger tank then just a 20g. I know i have to keep the male seperate unless i am breeding and i dont want to get into bredding for a good six months. But when i do start breeding do i have to remove one of the females then leave the male and female alone? Also I read in another post about the book by the love's. I was wondering where i could pick that up. And i also learned that simon fung is going out a business so i will probably be waiting till the next toronto reptile show or buy one from somone around the stratford ontario area. I am thinking about building two cages. Probably 2'x2'x2' then i will put a screan ontop and then have a door on the front that opens. And i know that corns need a lot of humidity especailly when they are sheding. So i am thining i will buy two misteres. Saposily they give really high humiity. Now how long and how many times a day should i put that on for? Right now i have four crested geckos and i use a mister and it only goes on once a day because my timer sucks. And for heating i know you are sapose to have only have the cage heated. So i was thinking of using that heat rope that you use for your roof during the winter and then i will put it on a thermostate. But i know the heat wont go through the wood so i would have to router into the wood and then put a piece of glass over top. Now if any of you have any suggestions or see any problems with what i am going to be doing please inform me. Thanks a bunch!

Jon
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First of all welcome to the forum! :wavey:

Here is a link to Kathy Love's website where you can buy the Corn Snake Manual. Click Here

Housing snakes together is not advised by most, but there are a few that do it without problems. They have females of the same size together, feed separately, and it's a good idea to have them separate for awhile first so you can get to know them. That way when you put them together you will have a better idea if they are stressed or not.

Corns don't need a lot of humidity. Mine stay around 50% and shed great. I read this morning where someone lives in a really dry place and their humidity stays around 30% and their snakes shed well with just a bit of added moisture right when it is shedding time (wanted to link you to it but I couldn't find the thread).

I don't know how to use heat rope, but there are lots of people here that do.
Hope I helped you. This place has taught me so much. :cheers:
 
I just read the discussion. Everyone seems to have different ideas. I told them what i am planning on doing for my corns. I am going to use wood chips or potting soil. The soil holds the moisture really well for my cresteds so i think it would work for my corns. And i am going to have to order that book by the love's once i can use my mom's credit card.
 
Jon_without_H said:
I just read the discussion. Everyone seems to have different ideas. I told them what i am planning on doing for my corns. I am going to use wood chips or potting soil. The soil holds the moisture really well for my cresteds so i think it would work for my corns. And i am going to have to order that book by the love's once i can use my mom's credit card.
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Just make sure you don't use cedar or pine shavings. The aromatic oils are toxic. I don't think potting soil is a good idea, as it usually has bugs and bacteria. If you want to try using it I'd suggest baking it in the oven to kill any organisms living in it.
 
Welcome to the forums Jon !

You'll find quite a few folks here with vast knowledge of Corn keeping and good senses of humor (Grin). Kathy Love's book is a really a MUST for anyone starting out IMHO.

I'm only 2 years into Corns...but between Kathy's books and this forum I've learned a ton. (smile) Use the search feature in the various areas here, lots to be read !There isn't always a "single" correct answer to many questions...but time and listening to various points of view will help you find "your way".

Granted..the learning never ends ! So good luck and welcome to the "lifestyle" ! :)
 
Just a few things:

1) A creamsicle is a hybrid, and not a pure corn. I don't know if you know this or not, and I'm not trying to change your mind about what you want, I just want you to know. Also know that any breedings involving a creamsicle and the babies need to be labeled as either creamsicles or hybrids.

2) Housing snakes together isn't the best of idea. If you use the search feature you can see the endless debates that usually get nasty about it. Basically, the cons outweigh the pros.

3) Corns do not need high humidity at all. 40-50% is plenty. Avoid substrates that produce very hgih levels of humidity---bad things can happen when the environment is too wet, ie scale rot, respitory infections, etc.

4) Potting soil would be a no-no. I'd imagine it's full of bugs and quite possibly has other things added into the soil such as fertilizer or other things. You'd be safer going with shredded coconut husk or aspen. Most recommend aspen, but again the choice is up to you.

The FAQ's are just meant to be a general guide so hopefully it will help you out a bit.
 
Actually, I disagree about the soil. Although wouldn't be my first choice, it isn't going to kill your pet. Two things to watch out for:

1) In buying a mix, select one that doesn't include chemical fertilizers of any kind.

2) Ensure that the soil had a drainage solution and don't keep it "wet" .

I have several natural material displays for a couple of my favorite species. They make wonderful displays but are much more maintenance intensive.
 
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Welcome to the forums Jon!
Simon is going out of business, but still has some animals as far as I know. There are also a few other breeders in Ontario that may be able to help you out if you didn't want to wait for the expo. There is a Canadian forum on here that you may want to check out.
Good luck!
 
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