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Ok everyone... "CLEAR" Snow Motley?!?

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Sean : CSM

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Hello Everyone,

Here is a post to bogle your mind! Earlier this year we hatched this Snow Motley Corn that seemed too always look a little "greener" than the others! It has started to grow now and seems to be pigmentless... and by this I mean its blood seems to be as well! She is pictured here with one of her average Snow Motley sisters. We thought this would be of interest to morphers everywhere.

We welcome your comments and opinions!

Thanks!

<img src="http://www.cornsnakemorphs.com/images/photos/clearsnow/02l.jpg"><br><br><img src="http://www.cornsnakemorphs.com/images/photos/clearsnow/04l.jpg">
 
Boy!

I'd sure like to see that green snake on a perfectly white colored background! I think it would be easier for my tired old eyes to see the subtlties of the shades of green.

Thanks in advance for posting that kind of a picture. I can't wait to see her again!

:D
 
Definitely an odd looking animal.

Any other genes floating around in the parents that you are aware of?

How about any of the siblings? Anything unusual in any of them, or did you get rid of them before you realized you had something different?

I hate when I do that............

Please keep us updated with photos as it gets more size to it.

Thanks.
 
All I can say is WOW!!!

That is a beautiful snake! Definitely keep us posted as she grows! I'd love to see her as an adult!
 
Rich, Darin & Terri,

I am glad that all of you are as amazed as I am about this specimen.

Rich > The parents are both homozygous Snow Motley's who have only produced two seasons. All the other babies, as far as I know, were nice "Pink & Green" Snow Motleys. I did hold back a large number of this years females and a couple of males just to see if this trait could be manipulated. I did sell some of the siblings to this girl but not all of them! Whew... lucky I'm not quite as big as YOU Rich! That animal would have gotten "lost in the wash" so to speak.

I will definitely keep updating everyone on her growth and I look forward to more hypothesis about her!

Thanks again!
 
Wow! That is such a strange color that my eyes are not accustomed to seeing on a corn that at first I thought it was a fake pic (I also scrolled down and looked at the pics before reading the text..heheh)
That's really cool
 
Would you mind...

taking a picture of this very interesting snake on a solid white background? I'd really appreciate it.

Thanks!
 
beautiful!!!

Absolutly pefect... lovelys they will always have a home in chicago. here at my home if you ever sell them...:)
your very lucky:D
 
Wow, that is one weird looking snake! It's like the boodless corn snake or something, lol.

Where did you get the parents from and how much? I like pink and greens, and those specimens are gorgeous!
 
That is the coolest snake that I have ever seen!! Thanks for sharing this with us. Any chance that you are going to try and breed some more?
 
Update on this project...

Well hello everyone...

It has been a long time since I have viewed this thread. I have been meaning to give you all an update on this amazing animal. I am sorry to say that she died. I have discussed her situation with Rich Z and Don S and at this this time we are still unsure whether she died from a problem related to her lack of pigment or just one of those "things" that hatchling Corns get sometimes.

Shortly after I released these photos of her she started regurgitating and rapidly lost energy. I tried a small amount of Panacur and Flagyl which didn't seem to help at all. I started feeding her mouse tales but after a few days she couldn't even keep those down.

The day she died was a very sad day for us. She was such a spectacular specimen, what a shame! All that I can hope for is that her color-less condition was genetic and we are now incubating more eggs from her parents.

I'm keeping my hopes up and finger's crossed

Thanks to everyone for the kind words on her and the support you have given us thus far. It is sometimes so hard to beleive something that looks so UNBELIEVABLE. I'm glad we were able to get some good pictures of her alongside a standard sibling.

Thanks again...
 
Sorry to hear that she died. It does always seem to happen to the unusual ones. Is there any other referance in reptiles to this type of mutation? it would be a shame if she died as a result of the mutation its an amazing looking animal goodluck with the new eggs
 
A little late replying..

I am sorry that she died on you. The loss of any pet is a hard deal, but to lose one so unique adds a whole other level.

While I am no veterinarian or biology major, I would have to say that her demise was a direct result of her lack of pigment, hemoglobin in this case. "Albino" animals get their only colour, red/pink, from their blood's hemoglobin. The lack of this pigment spells a certain death for that unfortunate individual.

The specimen most certainly couldn't carry out proper cellular functioning, and died from the complications of it. Hemoglobin is responsible for cellular respiration, red blood cells' hemoglobin attaches to oxygen and is therefore carried throughout the body.

While unusual looking indeed, I wouldn't think that this would be a viable gene you would want to keep around and keep perpetuating. In my opinion, I think it would only mean heartbreak for any other snakes with this condition that were to hatch out, and ultimately die.

I could be wrong, and I hope that I am.

Best of luck to you,
 
Sorry about her not making it :(

Please please come and update this thread when the clutch from her parents you spoke of hatches!

bmm
 
Thanks again for the kind words everyone! I will absolutely positively keep you guys posted on this year's offspring.

On another note... at first I thought of the lack of hemoglobin complication. That is a viable explanation but it doesn't quite explain why she survived so long and doubled in size along with her standard Snow Motley siblings. At this point I am leaning more towards some type of internal infection due to an intestinal bacteria or something like that. Of course as always with us... it needs to be proven before any conclusions can be made. All I know is if I hatch anothe one I will be VERY cautious with it. I guess we all know that when you are doing the numbers that us Corn snake people do... sometimes losses are part of the game. My luck it is the special one that no one had ever seen before :(

Good luck to all of you this season! I can't wait to see what kind of fun stuff we all hatch this year! How can you not LOVE Corns?!?!?

Thanks!
 
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