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Okeetees?

UnforgivenScarz

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Now here's a simple question that i don't seem to get here ... What is an okeetee? Is it just a simple recessive gene or a trade name for a combo of genes. And what is a reverse okeetee and what makes it reverse okeetee? Ive been going crazy trying to find out what it is online ... someone please help. Thanks in advance.
-AJ
 
An "Okeetee" is one of two things, depending on whom you're talking to. It is a "locality" snake that comes from a private hunting grounds somewhere in one of the Carolinas, or it is a "phase" or look of snake that is line bred.

Basically it is a normal cornsnake with very thick black borders, and high orange ground color with red saddles.

A Reverse Okeetee is a line-bred amelanistic bred for high orange ground and saddle colors with very thick, white borders. The name "reverse Okeetee" comes from the fact that it resembles an Okeetee phase in appearance, except that the thick black borders are now thick white borders...
 
An Okeetee can be either one or both of two different ways of thinking...depending upon who you are talking to at the time. Originally, it was a term used to classify a normal cornsnake that was captured in a specific locality...the Okeetee Hunt Club in Jasper County, South Carolina. They were noted for their particular look. Today, the look has been refined by selective breeding and specimens that fit that look may or may not be true locality Okeetees. Basically, the look is a normal corn (wild-type) that has rich coloration in both the saddles and the ground color as well as having thick black borders around the saddles. There is even a further break-down and you'll see the term "Abbott's Okeetee", because of one specific breeder that produced what many consider the perfection of the Okeetee look. This is an excellent example (and I found quite a few to choose from): http://www.cornsnakes.com/forums/showthread.php?t=35179&highlight=Abbott

A reverse Okeetee is an amelanistic cornsnake that has been selectively bred to have the rich colors in the saddles and the ground color as well as having thick white borders around the saddles. Basically, a "reverse" or albino form of the Okeetee look. Lately, I have been seeing alot of amels with thick white borders but light ground color also called reverse Okeetees, but personally, I don't think they fit the original description of the morph. This is what I consider a reverse Okeetee: http://www.cornsnakes.net/gallery.php?catid=2&id=28
 
Susan said:
An Okeetee can be either one or both of two different ways of thinking...depending upon who you are talking to at the time. Originally, it was a term used to classify a normal cornsnake that was captured in a specific locality...the Okeetee Hunt Club in Jasper County, South Carolina. They were noted for their particular look. Today, the look has been refined by selective breeding and specimens that fit that look may or may not be true locality Okeetees. Basically, the look is a normal corn (wild-type) that has rich coloration in both the saddles and the ground color as well as having thick black borders around the saddles. There is even a further break-down and you'll see the term "Abbott's Okeetee", because of one specific breeder that produced what many consider the perfection of the Okeetee look. This is an excellent example (and I found quite a few to choose from): http://www.cornsnakes.com/forums/showthread.php?t=35179&highlight=Abbott

A reverse Okeetee is an amelanistic cornsnake that has been selectively bred to have the rich colors in the saddles and the ground color as well as having thick white borders around the saddles. Basically, a "reverse" or albino form of the Okeetee look. Lately, I have been seeing alot of amels with thick white borders but light ground color also called reverse Okeetees, but personally, I don't think they fit the original description of the morph. This is what I consider a reverse Okeetee: http://www.cornsnakes.net/gallery.php?catid=2&id=28

Don't people labeling this way call the ones with deep orange background 'Fluorescent corns'?
 
The distinction between the reverse Okeetees, candy canes and fluorescent oranges is doing alot of over-lapping, IMO. The original descriptions of these varieties of amels are a bit different,at least they used to be, but over the past few years, they are all seemingly being bred to the RO standard. Rich started the fluorescent oranges and yes, they were very similar to the reverse Okeetees. So much so that recently, he started combining the two varieties. IMO, his fluorescent oranges and ROs, as well as his candy canes, are about as close to the ideal as you can get. Don also has superb ROs.
 
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