• Hello!

    Either you have not registered on this site yet, or you are registered but have not logged in. In either case, you will not be able to use the full functionality of this site until you have registered, and then logged in after your registration has been approved.

    Registration is FREE, so please register so you can participate instead of remaining a lurker....

    Please be certain that the location field is correctly filled out when you register. All registrations that appear to be bogus will be rejected. Which means that if your location field does NOT match the actual location of your registration IP address, then your registration will be rejected.

    Sorry about the strictness of this requirement, but it is necessary to block spammers and scammers at the door as much as possible.

Pics of my Sislari :)

P

Prellas

New member
This is her tank set up

<img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v294/prellas/Tank.jpg" alt="Image hosted by Photobucket.com">

This is her bathing in her dish of water and staring at her food
<img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v294/prellas/Snake1.jpg" alt="Image hosted by Photobucket.com">

And here she's being a bit camera shy
<img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v294/prellas/Snake2.jpg" alt="Image hosted by Photobucket.com">

And last but not least the mice I just got the other day that gave birth to 10 yesteday
<img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v294/prellas/Mouse.jpg" alt="Image hosted by Photobucket.com">

Guess I'll post a pic of me while I'm at it lol

<img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v294/prellas/Robyn2.jpg" alt="Image hosted by Photobucket.com">
 
Hi there and welcome!

I don't mean to start on a grumble but I feel I have to.

1 in the first pic- is that where the viv lives? The snake will most likely feel very exposed and could suffer a lot of undue stress. Snakes are best kept out of the way a bit in a low traffic area. A bit more cage decor will also help the snake feel secure.even as simple as plastic vines.

2- speaking of stress. What the hell is the point of putting an adult mouse in with that snake? All it does is stress out the mouse, stress out the snake and not achieve anything positive...it's not cute or funny, it's cruel to both animals...

3- I can't see all of the mouse tank, but I hope they have a decent hide to nest in and you don't make them tend to their babies out in the open.

4 -no, I'll stop here...but I'm not impressed...most people try to introduce themselves in a positive light...your pics only make you seem like you don't care for the wellbeing of neither your snake nor your mice.

Perhaps you could take this in a positive way and learn from it (ie- make changes) but the way you're keeping your snake now is not in its best interest and that's what most of us here are most interested in.

Sorry to greet you with a grumble but I would be a blue faced liar if I responded with 'oooh, nice snake'

So welcome, I hope you can learn a lot from this forum,
Adèle
 
well thanks for the advice..... although I am a new owner of a snake and I am slowly learning as I go. I was just recently told by somone that the mouse was too big but that's what the pet shop requested and she's been eating them fine as of so far... but I'll be getting a smaller size from now on... as for where her tank is, its in a low traffic area in the back of our bedroom by a cloest we dont even use anymore, that bathroom is out of service and if ever used by the 2nd door in the back.... The mice do have a hide and on a last note I do stun my mice before placing them in with my snake.
 
princess said:
Hi there and welcome!

I don't mean to start on a grumble but I feel I have to.

1 in the first pic- is that where the viv lives? The snake will most likely feel very exposed and could suffer a lot of undue stress. Snakes are best kept out of the way a bit in a low traffic area. A bit more cage decor will also help the snake feel secure.even as simple as plastic vines.

2- speaking of stress. What the hell is the point of putting an adult mouse in with that snake? All it does is stress out the mouse, stress out the snake and not achieve anything positive...it's not cute or funny, it's cruel to both animals...

3- I can't see all of the mouse tank, but I hope they have a decent hide to nest in and you don't make them tend to their babies out in the open.

4 -no, I'll stop here...but I'm not impressed...most people try to introduce themselves in a positive light...your pics only make you seem like you don't care for the wellbeing of neither your snake nor your mice.

Perhaps you could take this in a positive way and learn from it (ie- make changes) but the way you're keeping your snake now is not in its best interest and that's what most of us here are most interested in.

Sorry to greet you with a grumble but I would be a blue faced liar if I responded with 'oooh, nice snake'

So welcome, I hope you can learn a lot from this forum,
Adèle
Click to expand...


Princess, :rolleyes:

1. The viv location is fine. My snakes are all in a rack in my room, I have no problems. That is a high-traffic area. My light is on till late in the evening and into the wee hours of the morning.

2. The pet store told her that was the size of the mouse to use. We have since advised her to step down to hoppers.

3. Mice dont need hides to raise babies. All hides do are create more things to clean and or throw away.

4. Please dont judge a newbie right off the bat like that. This is a place for learning. She is new at this, and she will learn with time and advice, not criticism.

I dont know if you're having a bad day or something just struck you really wrong and snapped a fuse, but this post looks like a Jicin post.

Relax, have a beer, chill out. :)
 
I'm guessing your snake was hatched last summer and should probably be on fuzzies or crawlers. As you're breeding your own, you can cull when they're just opening their eyes. Rather than stunning them and feeding them off, why not fully kill all the littler except 2 or 3 so that the mother doesn't become engorged and freeze the ones you're not immediately using. That way you'll have a couple of weeks supply.

If you cull the largest in the littler and let the smaller ones grow on a bit, you'll have a good size to feed to your snake. The guage is that the food item shouldn't be thicker than 1½ times the thickness of your snake at the thickest point and should leave a lump in it's belly that evens out over about 12-20 hours.

When I first came to the forums, I did my homework by sitting and reading through ALL of the older posts. This takes a while but you learn so much. Then you have a base of knowledge to build upon and can ask more specific question. The search function is also a good resource.

Good luck,
Adèle
 
Good show of patience and understanding, Prellas. It's always good to have new members and not always easy to be first greeted with criticism. I'm sure Princess is like you--just wants what's best for the snake.

Princess did offer some good advice: Lurk. Lurk around the site and absorb everything you can. This website is probably the single-best resource on the internet for corn-specific information with presence from all of the most reknowned breeders. If you care for what's best for your snake then you've come to the right place. Take the criticism and turn it into action. Everyone here means well.
 
Joejr14 said:
Princess, :rolleyes:

1. The viv location is fine. My snakes are all in a rack in my room, I have no problems. That is a high-traffic area. My light is on till late in the evening and into the wee hours of the morning.

2. The pet store told her that was the size of the mouse to use. We have since advised her to step down to hoppers.

3. Mice dont need hides to raise babies. All hides do are create more things to clean and or throw away.

4. Please dont judge a newbie right off the bat like that. This is a place for learning. She is new at this, and she will learn with time and advice, not criticism.

I dont know if you're having a bad day or something just struck you really wrong and snapped a fuse, but this post looks like a Jicin post.

Relax, have a beer, chill out. :)
Click to expand...

Joe...jr...,

You'll notice I started with 'welcome and I don't mean to start with a grumble, but'....so I didn't run in swinging.

Joe, you've never been noted for your sensitivity, so I'm not sure you're aware that animals can suffer stress.


The adult mouse in the viv...I doubt anyone could think that that is an appropriate sized item. Also, owning a new animal requires homework before you get it...you don't walk into a shop...think, 'OH, how cute!!'....go home and then think....Crap...what do I do now????? ---unless you're very young, or very immature.


Technically you're right, mice don't need a hide as such, but it does make their life a lot more pleasant and less stressful so they're less likely to partake in stress related activities such as canibalising the babies, barbering or fighting. Something as simple as an empty cardboard box is all you need. -it doesn't need to be cleaned, just thrown out and replaced once a week or so...I'm sure most western households go through at least one suitable piece of food packaging each week??? -coockie box?, small cereal box?

Not having a bad day Joe, but as I said...how helpful would I be if I just said 'OOOH, nice snake' and left it at that?

And as for Jicin, she was out of here before you came to the forums and I seriously doubt you had any one on one conversations with her. You may have your 1000 posts Joe, but you haven't been here all that long and a lot of those have been petty-flamings and 'hey dude, nice snake' type posts, so I've learn't to not take anything you say to heart.

Prellas, we know you mean well, but sometimes I've gotta call it like I see it.

I'm sure your snake will have a great life and you'll give it all the care it needs. We here at the forum are here to help each other and learn in the process. Joe thinks chilling with a beer is the answer, I think advice from other members helps more.

Adèle
 
Princess- Sorry I didn't groom the pics for blatant errors before welcoming a newbie.
BUT-
Despite your supposedly softening opening, your initial reaction was pretty acid.
What the hell is the point of putting an adult mouse in with that snake?
Click to expand...
While you are absolutely right, there are nicer ways to say things.
JMHO
 
I am a noob (sorta) and if I was greeted that way I would cry and never come back to chat with yall...

ok maybe not that...but I think Princess gets the point
 
Sorry Shep, your post wasn't there when I started typing. -it was in no way a personal attack on you. I write those silly 'hey dude, nice snake' posts all the time too, but only when I mean it. I try to look at the photo before I comment on it so I have something more to say...once again, this is not dirrected at anyone in particular...just what I do, sometimes it leads me to see things that are out of sorts.

I've written countless PM's to newbies who are getting it all totally wrong and it seems to get no result. I don't see what's wrong with telling someone on an open forum that I dissagree with their practices. I did start and and close the post with 'welcome', did I not?

I could have written a lot more acidicly than just saying 'what the hell'

There were a number of other things I felt like commenting on too but I left it at that...for the reason that I don't want to totally scare Prellas off, but she has to learn that there are better ways to keep the snake (and the mice) right?

I've got an early start and it's 11.45 here, so I'd better be off to bed sometime soon. Everyone, feel free to tell me how wrong I am and how my approach sucks while I'm sleeping and I'll be back to read it tomorrow. G'night all,
A :wavey:
 
Joe, you've never been noted for your sensitivity, so I'm not sure you're aware that animals can suffer stress.
Click to expand...

You're right, I'm not aware that a day light bulb on 24/7 can cause stress and make the snake stop eating. I'm also not aware that too high, or low, of temperatures can do the same. I also dont know that too much handling can also cause stress.

Tact has nothing to do with knowing whether or not animals can be prone to stress.


The adult mouse in the viv...I doubt anyone could think that that is an appropriate sized item. Also, owning a new animal requires homework before you get it...you don't walk into a shop...think, 'OH, how cute!!'....go home and then think....Crap...what do I do now????? ---unless you're very young, or very immature.
Click to expand...

Well, if that person had never been to this forum before and was going soley based on the advice of the petshop, perhaps they didnt know. Since then, she was told that the meal was too big and I suggested hoppers/crawlers. Owning a new animal does not 'require' doing homework before you get it. It might certainly be suggested and recommended, but it's definitely not required.


And as for Jicin, she was out of here before you came to the forums and I seriously doubt you had any one on one conversations with her.
Click to expand...

Is that so? I'd suggest if you're going to say something, you know what you're talking about before saying it. I was here before she was booted.

http://www.cornsnakes.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15945&page=2&pp=30

You may have your 1000 posts Joe, but you haven't been here all that long and a lot of those have been petty-flamings and 'hey dude, nice snake' type posts, so I've learn't to not take anything you say to heart.
Click to expand...

Heh, this just goes to show that either you dont pay attention, or have a bad short term memory. I hardly post on the photo forum, therefore, most of my posts have not come from saying "Hey dude, nice snake". I wouldn't say that a lot of my posts have come from that and petty flamings, but whatever you'd like to think.

I'm glad you dont take my posts to heart. It always touches me when another forum member loves my posts. I'm so glad that you do, too.

Joe thinks chilling with a beer is the answer, I think advice from other members helps more.
Click to expand...

Sure, I told her to have a beer and not take proper care of her snake. I told you to relax with a beer. Of course reading the forums will help her---it helps most people out.
 
I just want to say....

I have only had snakes for 18 days now, and if anyone sees or reads about anything they think that I need to improve, PLEASE TELL ME! I'm just learning all of this stuff and trying my best, but I've already read about several things I was doing wrong on this forum. I love my baby snakes and I want to know if I'm not doing something right.
 
rude

princess your rude and not a cornsnake expert,wrong way to approach someone new, anyway thats a nice snake and set up,you can learn alot here welcome
 
Hey you guys!!!

Everyone needs a time out!!! LOL :laugh:

I gotta say that when I looked at the pics I kinda freaked out on the mouse/snake pic too!!! However, the situation was explained and I can see how that might be a funny shot *if* you didn't realize that wasn't such a hot idea. However, Princess did not know that when she started typing so I can see her side too. Sometimes when you see something like that it's hard to stop and ask politely: "um, you do realize that is a bad idea, right?"

Prellas, you have a lovely snake and seem interested in learning how to take care of her in the best possible manner. That's the important thing! Thanks for sharing your pics, hope to see more in the future.
 
All I Have To Say Is Get The Book "the Corn Snake Manuel" By Bill And Kathy Love.
 
Wow, I have to say I am really impressed with Prellas's responses, and the way she handeled the criticism. Welcome to the forums girl!
 
princess said:
I don't mean to start on a grumble but I feel I have to.

< snip vitriol >

Perhaps you could take this in a positive way and learn from it
Click to expand...

Perhaps I could beat the bejeezus out of my dog when he doesn't retrieve like an automaton, and he could take that in a positive way and learn from it.

Perhaps.

regards,
jazz
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top