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[Cornsnake124]

Not to ruffle any feathers or anything... but he DID provide the correct information and you misread it. He clearly stated that the humidity was between 85-90 degrees, NOT the temperature. So it was clearly your misunderstanding of his information and personally I would have been irritated by it as well.

Yes, I know I misread it. But to me he was coming across as being mad at me. I felt it was more than "irritated".

Not every new member around lacks experience and is a total knob.

I did not say that it was because he was new. At one time EVERYONE was new here. I clearly stated

With the inexperience you show in your post, I perceive that you don't know enough to raise 17 baby corns.

and again I said

Not to be mean, but even in your most recent post It doesn't really seem that you have.

In both of those I never said just you dont know anything. I said where it showed to me why.

The incubator setup sounds fine (as long as it's on a thermostat) - it's pretty much like my own home-made outfits.

Maybe I'm wrong, but I'm kind of worried about the tupperware melting. And it doesn't sound very efficient about keeping heat AND humidity in.

 

[Hallie]

Maybe I'm wrong, but I'm kind of worried about the tupperware melting. And it doesn't sound very efficient about keeping heat AND humidity in.

How do you think rack systems are heated? The Tupperware/Sterilite/other plastic bin will be fine on a heat pad at over 80 degrees. They are generally made from polypropylene, which has a pretty high melting point (although melting can happen in rarer instances, like in racks that have malfunctioned). And they are surprisingly good at holding heat and humidity, unless there is an excess of holes drilled/melted in it (which wasn't stated by the poster).

 

[st0386]

thanks em wright.
yes she has her own cage now, with plenty of space for herself.
i dont plan on SELLING them really, but no.. i certainly dont plan on keeping them either.
i know i cant afford to feed 17 snakes long term. im just not sure what to do.
i do have a few people who already expressed interest in taking one... but honestly, many of them have never had a snake. its one thing to come play with mine, its another
to own one. so im not sure that i would give them up to these people, but i dont know what to do with them. the reptile expo might not sell them all, especially since they will be normals. i thought about letting a few go in different places around town, if all else fails... but i was expressly warned that this is a bad idea. what is your opinion on this? we do have a Petco i could sell them to, but i assumed that they wouldnt take them since im not a registered breeder. does anyone know if this is the case?

 

[st0386]

oh, and no excess holes Hallie. just a few in the top i poked with a safety pin.... BEFORE i put the eggs in!! just in case there would be confusion...

 

[st0386]

so is it okay to put damp sphagnum moss over them? i read somewhere that you shouldnt cover more than half of the egg.

 

[Em Wright]

Personally, Cornsnakes124, I would have been "mad" at you as well. You made strong statements toward him after MISreading the information that he gave, not to mention you also made somewhat blind accusations as to his experience. Just because he didn't list a detailed resume as to his herping abilities does not mean he is an idiot newb when it comes to keeping snakes. That is all I was saying. I know that a lot of us are passionate about our views and the well being of ours/others animals, but we need to try to exercise a bit of tact as well as attempting not to jump to conclusions.

As for Tupperware... I used to be a Tupperware consultant and I grew up using their products. I wouldn't worry about them melting as they are garaunteed to resist a certain amount of heat.

sto0386, I know someone already recommended it to you so I'm just seconding that, but you need to get a copy of Kathy Love's book on Cornsnakes. You can buy one directly from her website www.cornutopia.com and probably get it signed! It has a great section in on how to care for the eggs, etc. Good luck!

 

[Calift]

Let them go a few places around town??

Not in the wild, I hope!! This is part of the major reasons they implement reptile bans :smash:

 

[hezikiawilson]

Personally, Cornsnakes124, I would have been "mad" at you as well. You made strong statements toward him after MISreading the information that he gave, not to mention you also made somewhat blind accusations as to his experience. Just because he didn't list a detailed resume as to his herping abilities does not mean he is an idiot newb when it comes to keeping snakes. That is all I was saying. I know that a lot of us are passionate about our views and the well being of ours/others animals, but we need to try to exercise a bit of tact as well as attempting not to jump to conclusions.

I agree. This forum is not just for experts. So even if he is an "idiot newb" (i'm not agreeing just making a point) he is here to get help on a hobby that a lot of people here are very informative about. so I say help him.

i agree about not letting them loose even if they are normals! if you really have nowhere else for them you can contact me and I'll pay the shipping . I am a breeder and I have a pet store near me that is very happy to buy any and all my corns that I can't get rid of. good luck!

 

[Em Wright]

I think he meant letting them go to Petshops around town..... :shrugs:

 

[Cornsnake124]

Personally, Cornsnakes124, I would have been "mad" at you as well. You made strong statements toward him after MISreading the information that he gave, not to mention you also made somewhat blind accusations as to his experience. Just because he didn't list a detailed resume as to his herping abilities does not mean he is an idiot newb when it comes to keeping snakes. That is all I was saying.

I don't find what I said strong. All I said was that 90 would be to hot. And my accusations were not blind. I made them going by what he had previously said. I can't control what he says or doesn't say. I can't just automatically know everything about his herping history. I was going by what HE said.

I agree. This forum is not just for experts. So even if he is an "idiot newb" (i'm not agreeing just making a point) he is here to get help on a hobby that a lot of people here are very informative about. so I say help him.

Just because he didn't list a detailed resume as to his herping abilities does not mean he is an idiot newb when it comes to keeping snakes.

I never said anything about him being an idiot. We were all new to this at some time and some of us were mis-informed about care and handling. I am not trying to be mean or anything.
I'm sorry if I might just exercise my freedom of speech. He wanted his questions answered.. I'm sorry if you didn't like my answer and that I don't want his snakes or eggs to DIE.
I don't really want to post on a forum where nobody wants to hear what I have to say. If all they can take is "oh, theres nothing wrong with how your keeping your snakes. Go ahead and release them into the wild. oh, its just all dandy." The world doesn't work that way. I'm not going to leave just because of this, but I've had enough of being told "your to harsh" or "I don't want to see you on this forum again." I'm just TIRED of it... Just don't listen to me if you don't want to hear what i think.

I don't want to be mean. I don't mean to be mean if i am. Just block me if you want my perfectly good opinion. plain as that :shrugs:

 

[Cornsnake124]

Sorry double post

Im sorry if i blew up in my last post. but i'm sick and tired or being told to get out. ive just had enough with everyone telling me "your wrong and you jump to conclusions". just cant take it...

 

[carnivorouszoo]

Sorry double post

Im sorry if i blew up in my last post. but i'm sick and tired or being told to get out. ive just had enough with everyone telling me "your wrong and you jump to conclusions". just cant take it...

This is the first time I have seen your post looking mean and people jumping on you for what you say. I think you need to calm down. It was a misunderstanding. Can't we all just agree that its great this person came here for help and is listening to what he/she is being told?

 

[Susan]

90 F is to hot. You want to cook the eggs!?! 80-85 would be good. I recommend you get Kathy Love's book "Corn Snakes: the comprehensive owners guide". it will give you good info about breeding and eggs. Your tupperware design will not work for an incubator. If you are going to do a DIY incubator, your going to need a different design, I might be able to find the design I used for mine. Tested it, and it works great.


[ Your following statement is in response to the OP having done research.]
Not to be mean, but even in your most recent post It doesn't really seem that you have.

The parts I marked in bold are EXACTLY the attitude that isn't appreciated by many. His tupperware incubator is actually one that will work perfectly, especially if he DOESN'T try to get one with a better fitting lid as the small amount of airflow in combination with periodic checking of the eggs will keep the moss at an almost perfect humidity level without him having to add moisture. I've used tupperware incubators for my entire corn snake breeding history.

And as for your remark about him not doing research...it sounds as if he HAS done all the necessary research.

 

[bitsy]

so is it okay to put damp sphagnum moss over them? i read somewhere that you shouldnt cover more than half of the egg.

I cover the eggs completely with sphagnum moss and it works a treat. Maybe the advice you read was dealing with a more dense incubating material, like peat? The eggs do need some airflow around them. However, even covering them completely with damp vermiculite will be OK - the bottom eggs in a clump will often be completely surrounded by either the incubating medium or other eggs, and they never have problems hatching.

 

[Em Wright]

Cornsnakes124, I was not trying to tell you to get out and go away or anything like that. I was simply trying to point out that your approach could have been better. From my point of view it looked like you were making calls about his research, experience, and ability that were somewhat unfounded. Granted it is very difficult to properly interpret text as it was meant to be understood and you're not the only person to have misread or taken something the wrong way. It happens.

It's just that sometimes people get jumped on when it's apparent that they really are trying to make up for their mistakes. The OP seems to be doing all he can to set things right and care for his animals properly now that he has the correct information. Which is good!

 

[st0386]

thanks bitsy.. thats what i wanted to know! almost all of them have gained the weight back already!

 

[st0386]

when i found them they looked like this.....

now they look like this!!!

 

[Em Wright]

That's great! Do keep us updated on them!!

 

[bitsy]

Looking good! Keep us posted.