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Super hypo motley ghost
- Thread starter zarozinia
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limey
hi i am a cornsnakeoholic
Hi guys these are our ghosts (the large dark moltey one is the female 02), she started of as light as the one you have bought zarozinia, but unfortunatley darkened a lot with age and size. The motley ghost wiht hardly any colour was also marked super hypo motley and came originally form reptiles plus in bournemouth (2002) although i havent seen any there since. I dont know what the genetics are behind this but i have thought that the super hypos are in actual fact type b hypos (its certainly worth trying to find out 
although it may take me some time). The other though i have had on the genetics of this guy is that he is merely the lightest of several lines of inbreeding, plus the fact i was told that the breeder is really a very keen boa breeder(not saying this guy came from the same breeder as your one but i guess it is possible), Boas have a genetic mutant (so i am told i havent really looked to deeply into it so i could be plunging in at the deep end) called a super hypo which is the result of breeding to hypos together, mayeb the guy who bred these corns has seen that a few of ghosts were very light one year and kept them and bred them together and so on until he has reached this point- again a possiblity. Then again it might be differnet type of hypo (which i will easily be able to prove disprove this year unless it is a differnt type of hypo and he is homo for two forms of hypo ekk!). Anyway i ws more interested in trying to breed hes pattern into other morphs and see how much of it i can get to disappear over the years of breeding, Lets hope hes up to it all
although it may take me some time). The other though i have had on the genetics of this guy is that he is merely the lightest of several lines of inbreeding, plus the fact i was told that the breeder is really a very keen boa breeder(not saying this guy came from the same breeder as your one but i guess it is possible), Boas have a genetic mutant (so i am told i havent really looked to deeply into it so i could be plunging in at the deep end) called a super hypo which is the result of breeding to hypos together, mayeb the guy who bred these corns has seen that a few of ghosts were very light one year and kept them and bred them together and so on until he has reached this point- again a possiblity. Then again it might be differnet type of hypo (which i will easily be able to prove disprove this year unless it is a differnt type of hypo and he is homo for two forms of hypo ekk!). Anyway i ws more interested in trying to breed hes pattern into other morphs and see how much of it i can get to disappear over the years of breeding, Lets hope hes up to it all Attachments
Blaqwraith
New member
Those are gorgeous ghost snakes. I'll be getting some pictures of my little one here soon
cka
memba
It also works in Pastel ball pythons...It's a proven "co-dominant" trait...when two pastels are bred together each hatchling has a 25% chance to be a "super pastel"...Pastels are lighter, briter looking, and the supers take it one step further...EXTREMELY bright ball pythons...limey said:
Definately post some breeding trial results for Hypo B when you can, bud...
ecreipeoj
Striped Topaz SK SG Free
I can certainly see how a boa breeder could apply the Hypo Boa way of thinking to this situation. If the Ghost Motleys involved had two hypo genes in the mix, the resulting clutch would be a mix of Ghost, a second Hypo Ghost and a Double Homo Hypo Ghost which would be exactly what a boa breeder would expect from a co-dominant hypo gene way of thinking.
It seem likely to me that one of the other three known hypo genes may be involved. I think each of them will produce a much lighter version of a “Ghost” type corn than the Standard Hypo gene does. Another possibility is that the Normal version of these Super Hypo Ghost Motleys is very red. This would also produce a much lighter version of a Ghost, much like the Silverqueens are heavily influenced by the Miami Phase.
The Sunkissed and Lava hypo genes have not been produced in the Motley phase yet, but soon will be. On the other hand, the Ultra Hypo has been produced in the Motley phase and has been mixed with the Anery A gene as well. They should have blue eyes if this is the case, and some odd results when Amel is in the mix as well.
It will be very interesting to here from any of the breeders who have produced these Super Hypo Ghost Motleys, to see what the rest of the clutches consisted of.
It seem likely to me that one of the other three known hypo genes may be involved. I think each of them will produce a much lighter version of a “Ghost” type corn than the Standard Hypo gene does. Another possibility is that the Normal version of these Super Hypo Ghost Motleys is very red. This would also produce a much lighter version of a Ghost, much like the Silverqueens are heavily influenced by the Miami Phase.
The Sunkissed and Lava hypo genes have not been produced in the Motley phase yet, but soon will be. On the other hand, the Ultra Hypo has been produced in the Motley phase and has been mixed with the Anery A gene as well. They should have blue eyes if this is the case, and some odd results when Amel is in the mix as well.
It will be very interesting to here from any of the breeders who have produced these Super Hypo Ghost Motleys, to see what the rest of the clutches consisted of.
Susan
Go Ahead, Make My Day!
It would definately be interesting to find out if the ultra hypo ghost motleys are homozygous for both anery A and anery B, or homozygous for 2 of the hypo genes or even all 4 genes! So far, I've only worked with anery A and hypo A, but have recently added a charcoal ghost female to my collection so I'll possibly be mixing them sometime in the future.
I'm selectively breeding my line to produce light, high-pink ghosts and ghost motleys with a pretty good success rate. I still get darker ghosts but even they can produce great offspring. This high-pink F1 ghost het motley male, when paired with a darker F1 ghost het motley female from the same line produced this super F2 ghost motley male (the only motley). The line also produces high-pink ghosts when the F1 male is bred to out-crossed F1 het ghost females. I've also produced some high-pink out-crossed F1 anery motley/stripes het ghost. I can't wait to see what hatches out this spring when I breed this anery male to the darker ghost female!
I'm selectively breeding my line to produce light, high-pink ghosts and ghost motleys with a pretty good success rate. I still get darker ghosts but even they can produce great offspring. This high-pink F1 ghost het motley male, when paired with a darker F1 ghost het motley female from the same line produced this super F2 ghost motley male (the only motley). The line also produces high-pink ghosts when the F1 male is bred to out-crossed F1 het ghost females. I've also produced some high-pink out-crossed F1 anery motley/stripes het ghost. I can't wait to see what hatches out this spring when I breed this anery male to the darker ghost female!
Felix the snake
Meow!
What's with the wet wood chippings??? :shrugs:
I don't think it's exactly good for the snake.
I don't think it's exactly good for the snake.
Wow, Kel she is beautiful, she looks more like a silverqueen ghost to me.
Ive managed to aquire an answer to my questions from the people who bred mine
quote"The name is one they made up themselves as they were the first to produce them.
The orginal super hypo ghost motleys, came from breeding two ghost motleys together.
The offsping from these were very unusual and pale. They kept all of them back, and now produce them from this unique line."
So there we go. Our questions answered.
Ive managed to aquire an answer to my questions from the people who bred mine
quote"The name is one they made up themselves as they were the first to produce them.
The orginal super hypo ghost motleys, came from breeding two ghost motleys together.
The offsping from these were very unusual and pale. They kept all of them back, and now produce them from this unique line."
So there we go. Our questions answered.
Quigs
"Got R Did"
Zarozinia,
Please don't get me wrong, to me that animal is quite simply stunning! I'd love to have a few of them in my collection.
I just have a hard time trying to figure out why they would put a label on them such as "Super Hypo" especially when in fact the hypo gene apparently isn't even present here?
There is only one reason that comes to mind. To sell animals. To make it look like they have something new and special. In my opinion and many others that is misleading and wrong!
If it was me, I'd call that a Ghost Motley...and a damn fine one at that!
Good luck,
Quigs
Please don't get me wrong, to me that animal is quite simply stunning! I'd love to have a few of them in my collection.
I just have a hard time trying to figure out why they would put a label on them such as "Super Hypo" especially when in fact the hypo gene apparently isn't even present here?
There is only one reason that comes to mind. To sell animals. To make it look like they have something new and special. In my opinion and many others that is misleading and wrong!
If it was me, I'd call that a Ghost Motley...and a damn fine one at that!
Good luck,
Quigs
