Thanks Becky... I might just do this one breeding, I do want to see the babies Medusa will produce by this guy as she is from silver queen lines and has in the past produced some pretty ghosts. I'm also interested to see what happens as far as looks when the babies from this boy are NOT motley. And I really do want to put Demeter, the anery mot female with a stripe - she was sold as poss het stripe and so was Achilles but I got no stripes from them last year (of course out of only 7 babies that doesn't prove much of anything) .