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Well this is a cool hatchling...

ghosthousecorns

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I am not doing so well incubating sinaloan eggs the past couple of years, but the ones that do hatch are full of surprises. Came home to find at last my only non corn clutch hatching. There is only one other egg in the clutch that didn't go bad and the rest are fubar, I think I might have to try a different incubating technique.
Still, I am not complaining! I didn't even know they came in any sort of vanishing pattern. The striped one from last year had partial fading but not like this...
 

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I would think you could incubate at the same temps as cornsnakes....Just keep in a warm room...
 
I'm with Meg, low and slow for milks. A few people I've spoken with non-corn related, feel we incubate colubrids too warm. I use to do corns, emory's rats, desert kings, cal kings, NM milks, and plains hogs 10+ years ago at 86°F as that was what I was told to incubate at. Out of all those, the kings and hogs hatched normal. My cal kings I had over 20 eggs that either slowly died 1 by 1 throughout incubation, died full-term in egg, and at the end I had a lone egg hatch at 86°. My milk eggs all died, the rat snakes (corns and emory's) were all kinked or dead-in-egg, and all the hog eggs hatched fine. It didn't help that I was using a hovabator either, but it was controlled by a Helix DBS-1000.

Talking with the likes of Damon Salceies, Joe Forks, Brad Alexander, and a few others now that I've shifted from lizards to snakes again, has me incubating at 81-83 (that's my limits due to a house cooled with a swamp cooler, too difficult to get any lower). Those first 3 gentlemen, Damon in particular with his alterna and celaenops incubate in warm rooms at 78-80°F with much greater results. Results like more robust babies and babies more willing to eat pinks. My best friend does the same with his celaenops. Eggs go into a sterilite shoe box, he places the box partly on a heat pad to keep the eggs at 80°, and then moves everything to a closet shelf. He's had 100% hatch rates for 3 or 4 years running and robust babies that he and I could get on pinkies with little to no problems.
 
I incubated them at about 82-83 same as the corn eggs. I had been wondering if the eggs needed lower humidity also, these snakes being from a kind of arid region. I will definitely try lowering my temps if I repeat the pairing next year, and appreciate the advice. Any differences in incubation medium needs? I use sphagnum moss.

I like the normal sinaloan milks almost as much as the aberrant ones, they are just cool colubrids. I had pueblan milks for a while and I found they were not as calm as the sinaloans. Sinaloans definitely have a jumpier personality than corns, but are still easier to handle than my everglades rats or MBK.


Here is the sibling from the other surviving egg. It was a bitey little one lol. I didn't get a great photo but will get a full body photo after shed. I looked around for a few family photos too. The second pic is of the older brother from last year, third pic is the sire and last photo is the dam.
 

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Hey Jen,
Just noticed this thread. I picked up an aberrant sinaloan a week ago and think he's great. It amazes me the variation in these guys!
Congrats on the killer dude!
 
Great looking hatchling! Congrats! I always did well incubating my kings & milks @ snake room temp. Fluctuates between 76 to 80*.
 
Yea, It reminds me of "Astro Pops" when I see the tails of these lol
Thanks for the compliments, these pairings have exceeded my expectations for sure
 

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Great looking hatchling! Congrats! I always did well incubating my kings & milks @ snake room temp. Fluctuates between 76 to 80*.

Can I ask, anyone who has incubated them low and slow, about how long does it take for them to hatch. We have milks on day 72 at around 80-81, there were only 4 eggs to begin with and 1 had a bad spot on it from the beginning, the other 3 are still looking good. They are all really big eggs (I could easily fit 4 corn eggs inside each one) and they are starting to get soft. I just want to know about how long they are gonna take? I had African House Snakes laid the day before them and corns laid the same day all in the same incubator, the African House Snakes started hatching on Sunday (so 4 days ago) and the Corns and Honduran eggs have yet to go. My patience is running terribly thin right now :cool:
 
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