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what happend to rock music?

cornbreadandmilk

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Where has it gone it and alternative have been dead for awhile now. but what killed it?

It seems most music the days is pop or rap ?:awcrap:

I had a music professor that suggested that music styles go in cycles and that we will eventually run back into rock. will it happen?
 
Not in our lifetimes... Unfortunately. With today's technology... A person neither needs a voice or the ability to play an instrument.... Just look good or be entertaining. We the fan killed music. We now download music instead of buying it on cd or (gasp!) vinyl. The true musician makes no money.
 
Not in our lifetimes... Unfortunately. With today's technology... A person neither needs a voice or the ability to play an instrument.... Just look good or be entertaining. We the fan killed music. We now download music instead of buying it on cd or (gasp!) vinyl. The true musician makes no money.

agreed with most songs being written by a song writer and auto tune there isnt any talent in it . makes me very sad :cry:
 
I think that there is great music out there, always. Nowadays, ya'll got to go and find it. BUT when you do, the reward is worth the search. Personally I prefer live music and the available venues for such are shrinking fast ( at least where I live). It is now more important than ever before to go out there and support those musicians who create what you like. My most recent 3 best new acts I adore (check 'em out, ya never know, ya might like these):

1. Natalia Zukerman

2. Simon Townshend

3. Mike Mangione and the Union
 
I might DL all my music, but I am for sure paying for it! And because of the convenience of buying it that way, and the ease of storage, and the option to have it with me wherever I am, and be able to listen to it on a multitude of devices ranging from my phone to my TV to my laptop to my car stereo- I buy WAY more music than I ever did as a kid, with vinyl, or 8-tracks, or cassettes, or CDs...
 
1. Natalia Zukerman Meh

2. Simon Townshend I could like that..

3. Mike Mangione and the Union Meh, kind of reminds me of Jason Mraz.
Let's see- I'm not as much of a stick in the mud as Rich is...

You might like the album Voices on the Verge.
 
I've been trending toward country for some reason, or southern rock, or something.

Current favorite bands are Black Stone Cherry and The Killers and Florida Georgia Line and The Band Perry and Halestorm.

Current bands I'm always listening to are Bruno Mars, Blackberry Smoke, Burn Halo, Flo Rida, Rev Theory, Kings of Leon, Theory of a Deadman, Shinedown, Train, Zac Brown Band, Sixx: A.M., Silvertide, Maroon 5, Jet, Imagine Dragons, HugoBilly Currington, Adele.
 
Stick in the mud? Lol

I just prefer 70's - 80's ROCK over today's glorified pop singers.... There are no pop bands.... You have a person who's vocals are helped by computers and 65 dancers to entertain the people. Meh.... If I wanted to see someone dance I'd be at the local strip club.
 
I agree music in general is dead. Even old bands like Pearl Jam are making new pop music and it sucks.The only new band i listen to is Beware Of Darkness. Not sure why but they have my attention now. Just wait 20 years and we'll all be begging to hear justin bieber on the radion compared to what will be playing.
 
Uh, oh! You just triggered my musicologist side ;).

The big difference between paying by the song and paying by the album is that there really isn't a lot of profit to the musicians for a single song. It used to be that singles were a very, very small percentage of sales. Now they're the predominant sales medium, and that hurts. Composers and musicians aren't making money off of music. Entertainers who do big shows are. When I was in college, my undergrad adviser commented that we were making ourselves obsolete-that a composer using a piece of software like Finale, with a good keyboard with sound samples and good speakers could replace almost any instrument adequately, and that eventually, this would replace most live music. And that has proven to be the case. If you want a string orchestra to back up your vocals (as wasn't uncommon in the 1950s-1970s), you hired an orchestra, who then had to be paid for each performance. Now, you hire a sound engineer to make a pre-recorded digital soundtrack that you pay for once. Music has never been a terribly lucrative career, but right now is a REALLY down time for trained musicians.

My suspicion is that there is very little music from the 2000-2010 decade that will make it into the music history books in 100+ years. Possibly none. Even most popular stage productions are retreads and revivals, not new works. The instrumental genres have also really not had much new going on. The growth has been in technology, with almost no growth musically. If you look at the top shows on Broadway over the last 10 years, most of them are shows that were written prior to that. Orchestras aren't playing new works, for the most part, either. Having said that, there are a LOT of dry decades, musically speaking.

I'm guessing we'll move away from that, though. In about 50 years, we've gone from the early use of the Moog synthesizer, which absolutely SOUNDED electronic (and which, if you listen to a lot of mid 20th century music, lets you date a song quite precisely based on the amount it's used and it's sound quality) to synthesized sounds that are really indistinguishable from acoustic sounds, to the point of being able to synthesize the human voice (and therefore, letting performers be cast based on performing skills, not singing skills). You don't have the "fat lady" singing opera or the "Face for radio" Broadway artists, who have excellent voices, but may not be traditionally beautiful.

My prediction is that the pendulum will swing the other way. 3D printing is allowing instruments to be created that were only hypothetical, and were as much a math or computer science problem as a music one in the early 1990s. What it will take is someone with the level of talent that the Beatles had who can incorporate these new sounds and get the US market to accept them, the way the Beatles did for non-Western influences in US pop music in the 1960s. And there are still people who are that talented coming up who want to innovate and experiment. They just need to be in the right place, at the right time.

What I do think we may never see again is the mega-fan response that happened for the Beatles or Elvis. I suspect the music that is actually musically significant and will end up being considered THE music of the 20th century may well be the sort of thing that has a niche interest and is played in small, isolated clubs, with a loyal fanbase, but that may never fill big arenas. It's not mega-stars that make it into the music history books, but, often, the people who influenced the mega-stars. Musically speaking, the Southern Gospel and Blues influence, which led, combined with a good performer and a charismatic personality, to the stardom of Elvis, is a lot more influential than the King himself.

The best and worst part about being a musicologist and trying to analyze the present? You'll never know if you ended up being correct or totally off base. It's entirely possible that in 500 years, Justin Bieber will end up being a significant musical influence. But I doubt it.
 
If in 500 years Justin Bieber ends up as being a huge musical influence, I will have to say I am happy I won't be here anymore!
 
If in 500 years Justin Bieber ends up as being a huge musical influence, I will have to say I am happy I won't be here anymore!

Me, too-but Mozart's operas were considered to be about as low and vulgar as a Miley Cyrus video, and Stravinsky's ballets were considered bad enough to cause riots. Both are now considered seriously influential and important enough that they make it into the one semester, non-major music literature survey class and are considered part of "What every educated person should know".
 
As you age, your body stops generating as much dopamine in response to new songs. So songs you heard in your teens will always be remembered as 'better' than today's music, because your body isn't capable of giving you the same high for it. You hear a new song, your pleasure centers don't light up as much as they once did, you perceive that music is getting 'worse.'

The brain is weirdly fickle. You can take the same food and put one sample in a plain wrapper, and the other sample in a Low Fat Healthy wrapper and everyone will say the 'regular' one tastes much better than the 'healthy' one.
 
Heck, when rap "music" became popular, I just stopped listening. I NEVER listen to the radio while driving and the only time I have bought a CD album within the last couple of decades is during Christmas time to buy Christmas music.

And I used to play in a band in my younger days, and still to this day plink around on my keyboard (Kurzweil PC3) at home. That along with my Roland BK-7m backing module, I have a lot of fun making noise that almost sounds like music.
 
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It's a great time to be alive if you love music!

And I don't say that because of what is playing on the radio - I don't listen to the radio. But with how easily new bands can get exposure without needing to go through a label, there is tremendous variety out there.

Also, it's much easier to listen to music that is regionally popular, but perhaps not in your region.

For example, I am very much into industrial metal, gothic and thrash and Europe is the place for that. Very few European bands tour in NA (Rammstein is hugely popular, but has toured in Western Canada only once. And yes, I did go to that concert. And yes, it was absolutely amazing.) It wasn't all that long ago that I never would have heard of any of these bands (Save Rammstein, I started listening to them in the 90s).

But, with the advent of online music, youtube and wikipedia, I've started listening to stuff like Susperia (Norwegian), Eisbrecher (German), Delain (Dutch), etc.

So, it doesn't really matter what 'the kids' are listening to. There are good bands and producers out there making exactly the kind of music you want to listen to. You just have to seek them out.
 
Me, too-but Mozart's operas were considered to be about as low and vulgar as a Miley Cyrus video, and Stravinsky's ballets were considered bad enough to cause riots.

I miss rock too.
 

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Rich, If I've ever seen cause for a member to be banned for a post that was it !!!!!!!!
JUST KIDDING !:rofl:

Talk about opposites attract !! One of the most talented artists ever marries one of the most Untalented musicians ever to grace a stage :headbang:
 
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