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WOW and errmm help/advice please

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Shimmer

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Well the wow is coming home to find that my male!!! :eek1: amel corn snake has layed a batch of ten eggs when he was sexed by the reptile shop and he looks very male in shape as in the corn manual :shrugs: (he did have a tank mate of another male for a week when we brought him home till he went to his new home)"said friend now being sued for maintence :rofl:" this would also be the cause of his nasty temper change over the last 3 weeks and not eating phase to hazard a guess?? as per one of my earlier posts,but also is it possible she was already gravid when I bought her ? and had been fertilised in the shop ?,she was purchased on the 31/12/04 so I've only had her 5 weeks or would the eggs have come from her sharing a tank for the first week at home with this male my pal got?

well now the inital panic and shock has faded(my reaction on seeing the eggs was "you can't do that you're a boy!!!" )having never had this before I've followed the advice given in the corn snake manual using spaghnum moss and a container for care of the eggs but just wondered if anyone can give me any tips on how to try and insure at least some of these healthy looking eggs survive and hatch,I'd feel awful if I lost them through ignorance so any advice would be welcome!!!!thanks
 
Figure 40 days after fertilization to egg laying, I'd guess you bought HER gravid. Awe poor baby. :grin01:

You need to keep the eggs warm (82 degrees is what I incubate mine at) and moist, not wet. You can't turn the eggs. What was on top needs to stay on top.
 
Many materials work adequately as incubation media. My 2 favorite are sphagnum moss and corse vermiculite, both obtainable where plants or nursery supplies are sold. both allow oxygen to circulate. snakes in the wild usually find holes or hides to lay their eggs, so you want to try to duplicate this as well as you can. there are many links on this subject and i will try to find a few. but before those eggs hatch you want to make sure you have the housing area to house all of them, some use large glad containers. you will also want to go to your local petshop and buy many frozen mice beaseu all of those snakes will need to eat once hatched, and they will most likley shed not long after.

http://simonsnakesite.tripod.com/snakecare.html

there is one site that is very helpfull, now that you have a clutch of eggs you have alot of research and not to much time. :cheers:
 
You can't turn the eggs.
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cant stress this enough. if you turn or flip the eggs, there's a possibility of drowning. Hovobators work just fine, especially with only one clutch, or you can just keep them at a constant temperature in the 80-85 range. I've also heard of people who didnt incubate their eggs and kept them at room temp(75 to 77). the eggs hatched later than those incubated, but were fine. Good luck!
 
I was able to successfully hatch a clutch of eggs by leaving the egg-laying container on the warm side of my tank (the warm side was around 82-85 the whole time). If you have enough room in your tank to do this, and the temps are in the 80-85 range, then this works just fine. I'm thinking about doing something different this year, but I don't want to mess with something that already works for me. That, and I'm poor.
 
I remember what it was like to be a poor college student...LOL


But Hovabators only cost $35 at Farm and Fleet.
 
I had a very consistent 35 days between breeding/laying in the 2001-2003 seasons when I was only putting them together to breed, and observing every breeding. So, IMO, either way is possible.

If the friend's male is an amel, and you hatch non-amels, then you'd know those are not his. Otherwise I don't think you'll know for sure without a paternity test. ;) (It's also possible that the clutch has multiple fathers...)
 
If I had the $35 to get the hovabator, I'd probably spend it on my last book. I'm still trying to get some kind of loans right now so I can keep being a poor college student.
 
Count yourself lucky

Better to have a 'boy' surprise you with eggs than have an apparent 'girl' turn out to be a boy after you paid more than you would have hoped to just to secure those genes in a female snake....grrrrr. The story has a happy ending though, I contacted the breeder and he sold me a 1 year younger female sibling to the the one that turned out to be a boy for a rock bottom price...so I managed to get more snakes without making my boyfriend madder than I had to!!! :p So I have to wait one extra year to make the pairing I wanted to, I'll live!
 
thanks for all the replies everyone,well the being poor I can associate with and while the incubators may only be $35 dollars stateside the cheapest available over here is about £100!!!! and its to far for them to deliver to me :cry:
so we're going to give it a try in the hot part of the viv,we ve done lots of reading and research and at least have a vague idea of what I'm doing now,mom is very tired but now eating and seems to be back to her calm happy self and we think we have 9 viable eggs,round smooth and pearly white so its a case of wait and see I guess!
and the snake dealer offered me to swap her for a boy because that was what I wanted in the first place :nope: so attached to her now so tough luck to him! :p
and shes amel,my pals snake is a carolina and the male she was in a viv with in the shop was a snow as well so I'm not sure what the babies would look like at all?anyone got a clue?
 
If your amel girl has no heterozygous genetic traits...your chances are for the following.

If you're pals snake did the duty (although I am not sure that the time frame was long enough) you would have a bunch of normals het for amel.

If it was the snake in the pet shop...all of them will be amel het anery.

Chances are...if both of them mated with her, since the females CAN retain sperm...you will have a mix of offspring from the two...which can be very unpredictable...especially not knowing if there are any underlying (het.) genetic traits.
 
Assuming there are no hets, the snow daddy will produce all amel babies het for anery and if it were the carolina then the babies will be normals het for amel. Good luck with your clutch, the hot side may be a smidge too warm and the cooler side will give you a longer incubation time but with a better chance of a healthy clutch with no deformities. Best of luck,
Adèle
 
not a problem and thanks for the advice again and guess what arrived in the post today a small incubator,the other week he bought me a baby hognose as a romantic gift now an incubator,at least he understands the obsession ;) :D i'll keep everyone updated if they hatch !!!
 
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