beautifullywild77
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I have no more imput. You talking in circles makes me dizzy.
I am failing to understand the point of the debate.
According to the written word, and the older approach- religion shuns hybrids. My point is that you have to understand what is meant by the term hybrid by that religion to know what it is shunning.
The various alterations and mutations that some of the different religious translations took do not adhere to the written word anyway... so what's the point you're trying to make here? Agreed, there are many authors of the bible and many translations, different bibles versions, different sects, denominations, etc. There is much disagreement otherwise we would have just one bible and one christian religion with zero different denominations.
So according to one such approach, one -could- make the statements you made- all of which are untested, unproven, and are far, FAR from having a decent scientific basis. Again, agreed. My point here is to show that religious viewpoints are not based on science, but do indeed reflect in how we behave or treat subjects such as hybrids.
So... I think that it's like trying to eat the cake and keep it whole... shaping the meaning of the text to fit one own's views... to the point which it pretty much counters the original verse.
Your missing the point, the point is to show how it is all subjective. Religions differ, opinions differ, etc. But, we do often times make decisions based on how we interpret our personal religious books, secular teachings, etc.
Just say you disagree with the concept and be done with it... your argument is opinion-based and cannot possibly resolve this discussion.
Personal attacks or flaming are not allowed on this site and the moderators will take a dim view of any that occurs. But as for laying down any laws about any thread staying on topic, that's a non-starter.That would indeed be easy to say I disagree or agree.... but I am agreeing here that religion can indeed influence whether we perceive hybrids as being good, bad, or neutral. I am also attempting to see deeper into how I personally rationalize these matters as well as to see how others rationalize these matters. If one does not want to engage in such, easy enough. Leave the topic alone. If however one does wish to engage.... fire away. I would however like it if personal attacks, demeaning remarks, or.... attention deficit style condescending remarks about length of reply be left out of it. Simply put, respond with something to think about or that counters the argument, agree, disagree... i.e. add something of merit to the thread.
"My point is that you have to understand what is meant by the term hybrid by that religion to know what it is shunning."
You can't answer that though. Your guess is as good as any.
Actually, I did answer what a kind is and I also offered up a biblical quote that defined what is not allowed as far as hybrids. Leviticus 19:19 so there was no guesswork if one simply used the definitions as they were supplied by baraminology and the bible. So, much better than guesswork. Definitions were supplied. I was going by the baraminology argument as well as the bible verse already supplied.
You are pro-hybrids, which is why you find ways to rationalize your choice even though you believe in a religion that shuns the concept.
The fact that your personal interpretation was altered in order to accommodate your preferences doesn't mean that this is how the concept hybrid is -really- perceived by organized religion or by the creator of said verse.
The religion I chose the bible verse I chose.... all prohibit hybrids. But again, I used those versus and their own science to show clearly that a milk x corn were not hybrids in that context. This is not my personal opinion, but rather using the words from Leviticus 19:19 and baraminology (creationist science) to confirm. Absolutely not my personal interpretation.
In short, the different religious groups can turn the bible to just about anything they want... cause if you can turn a verse such as this, which clearly states "Hybrids are an abomination" into "Hybrids are closer to the original kind", I guess you can pretty much do anything.
Personal attacks or flaming are not allowed on this site and the moderators will take a dim view of any that occurs. But as for laying down any laws about any thread staying on topic, that's a non-starter.
People can contribute as much or as little as they feel fit. They can give opinions, they can make jokes, they can go off on tangents.
Maybe you would find more of the debates you apparently find so interesting on another forum? Perhaps a hybrid snake forum would be more satisfying to you?
Here's two http://www.hybridherps.com http://www.hybridhaven.net
And yes, here threads are like hybrids. They don't always stay pure to their natural.
was beyond my comprehension. Did you mean this? Or did you mean this? Or, I disagree.... because of this. But, I do also realize not everyone is capable or desirous of such introspection and reflection
So, are you saying I am too stupid to understand what you are talking about? or do you mean I am too ignorant to have an open mind to your ramblings? Talk about personal attack.
So, are you saying I am too stupid to understand what you are talking about? or do you mean I am too ignorant to have an open mind to your ramblings? Talk about personal attack.
Ok, I was just doing what you had suggested and asked you to clarify what you meant. I also apologize for hurting your feelings with the "too long, didn't read" meme! Again, I was just being honest!