Dean, I have been wondering if our inability to access chat is because we both have a gap in our screen name. At the 'other' place the chat didn't use to work for me until the administrator changed my name from shed'n my skin to shedn_my_skin. For some reason the system didn't recognize the apostrophe and the bank spaces. It has worked ever since. I really don't think it's anything on my computer. It used to work just fine, I did nothing different on my computer it just stopped working. I didn't install, update, or do anything on my end here.