MrPointyhats
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since when is asking for information and being an animal abuser the same thing starsy? cos so far thats the assumption your making!
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reptile65
Future DVM
Would you care to explain what this "fpmsl" thing means, since you insist on using eat at least twice in every one of your posts? Thanks
MrPointyhats
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says the guy who just asked me for pics????????????
Lennycorn
Just see the truth
Now you understand how we feel!! Pointy.
MrPointyhats
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ok retile65 as youve asked soooooo nicely! though possibly exagerating the over usage, but i spose exageration is the name of this game isnt it!?!?! it stands for * Pissed My Self Laughing! i spose after asking what a troll was im in no position to question your understanding of european neticate! fpmsl....ooops!
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reptile65
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starsevol
Cohabbing is cruelty...
Because in the opinion of most of us, forcing a solitary animal to share space with another is abuse. You don't really care to hear why you shouldn't do it, you just want to know HOW. You are intent on doing it no matter how much it hurts your snake. You are asking us how to abuse your snake. And are not happy when we don't give you some huge secret.
Lennycorn
Just see the truth
MrPointyhats
New member
Ive just realised Starsevol....your fedex certificated?!?!?!? YOU POST SNAKES???????????????????????????????????? OMG WHAT A HIPOCRITE!
VickyChaiTea
Snake enthusiast
I'm surprised he's not banned yet. He's probably getting warnings at least.
MrPointyhats, if you are not a troll I'd like to say a few things. You were the first one to start being sarcastic and possibly come off as rude, so technically you started this. I suggest trying to make your posts with as little snark to them as possible even if you're just joking to avoid people getting offended. A smiley face here or there helps too.
Second, on the subject of probing it's something that should only be done by someone with experience. A reptile vet should know how and not charge TOO much, but if you can find a breeder in your area that would be better. (cheaper)
I would stick with mice as a staple and stay away from rats for now, or only use them as a treat. They are high in fat and over time can make your snake fat, which is unhealthy.
And as far as cohabitation goes, there are some very real risks there and in general it ends very badly for one or more of the snakes. That is why no one recommends it, it usually (but not always) goes downhill. Now if the risk was something small, then no one would care. But the risk here is, at worst, death.
So, here is the only way to properly cohabitate corn snakes. Start with an enclosure 40' wide, 40' deep, and 6' tall. Add about 20+ hides, 5+ basking areas or heat pads, 5+ water dishes, and as much decor as you want. Then, quarantine your snakes for at least 6 months before introducing them. After that release them and hope they don't eat each other.
My point is that in order to avoid the risks of stress you have to house them in something so large that it's as if they aren't even together. And even then, you still can never take away the risk of cannibalism, spreading of disease, and unwanted breedings.
MrPointyhats, if you are not a troll I'd like to say a few things. You were the first one to start being sarcastic and possibly come off as rude, so technically you started this. I suggest trying to make your posts with as little snark to them as possible even if you're just joking to avoid people getting offended.
A smiley face here or there helps too. Second, on the subject of probing it's something that should only be done by someone with experience. A reptile vet should know how and not charge TOO much, but if you can find a breeder in your area that would be better. (cheaper)
I would stick with mice as a staple and stay away from rats for now, or only use them as a treat. They are high in fat and over time can make your snake fat, which is unhealthy.
And as far as cohabitation goes, there are some very real risks there and in general it ends very badly for one or more of the snakes. That is why no one recommends it, it usually (but not always) goes downhill. Now if the risk was something small, then no one would care. But the risk here is, at worst, death.
So, here is the only way to properly cohabitate corn snakes. Start with an enclosure 40' wide, 40' deep, and 6' tall. Add about 20+ hides, 5+ basking areas or heat pads, 5+ water dishes, and as much decor as you want. Then, quarantine your snakes for at least 6 months before introducing them. After that release them and hope they don't eat each other.
My point is that in order to avoid the risks of stress you have to house them in something so large that it's as if they aren't even together. And even then, you still can never take away the risk of cannibalism, spreading of disease, and unwanted breedings.
reptile65
Future DVM
Oh wow! I didn't realize shipping snakes was animal abuse! Haha, what a joke. How do you think 99% of reptile breeders sell their snakes?
Also, not sure what "certificated" means. Have you tried using spell check?
MrPointyhats
New member
OPINION...MOST OF US....perhaps you misunderstood???? i have asked for information from those who have! i have ALREADY and REPEATEDLY stated that i have read all the logical and abusive arguments against! not all were both i might add!!! I HAVE NOT DONE IT! I know of many hobbyists and professionals who have suceeded! I am trying to assertain what the actual, rather than the violently asserted opinions of the minority, likelyhood of success is!!!! you lot have driven me to agression just to try to have my account closed !!!!!
Lennycorn
Just see the truth
Cut David a break Reptile!!! English is not his native tongue.
I'm not sure he know either. But let the show continue.
Pass the soda over please.
Lennycorn
Just see the truth
starsevol
Cohabbing is cruelty...
Well, if you know so many, go ask THEM!!! Those hobbyists and breeders you speak of will tell you how, but the truth is they are just LUCKY.
They are going against the very nature of the animals they keep.
No skill involved, just luck.
MrPointyhats
New member
im not sure exactly what im spose to get that i didnt start with lenny? perhaps your the ones not getting something! oh and certificated is ENGLISH!! look it up! and actually english isnt my first language but im clearly more proficient in it than you!?!? now who mentioned dunce caps?????
MrPointyhats
New member
I have starsevol!!!! im trying to cross reference as many sources as possible!!!! i have already said that but as you enjoy repeating yourself clearly i also need to!
MrPointyhats
New member
I'm surprised he's not banned yet. He's probably getting warnings at least.
MrPointyhats, if you are not a troll I'd like to say a few things. You were the first one to start being sarcastic and possibly come off as rude, so technically you started this. I suggest trying to make your posts with as little snark to them as possible even if you're just joking to avoid people getting offended.
Second, on the subject of probing it's something that should only be done by someone with experience. A reptile vet should know how and not charge TOO much, but if you can find a breeder in your area that would be better. (cheaper)
I would stick with mice as a staple and stay away from rats for now, or only use them as a treat. They are high in fat and over time can make your snake fat, which is unhealthy.
And as far as cohabitation goes, there are some very real risks there and in general it ends very badly for one or more of the snakes. That is why no one recommends it, it usually (but not always) goes downhill. Now if the risk was something small, then no one would care. But the risk here is, at worst, death.
So, here is the only way to properly cohabitate corn snakes. Start with an enclosure 40' wide, 40' deep, and 6' tall. Add about 20+ hides, 5+ basking areas or heat pads, 5+ water dishes, and as much decor as you want. Then, quarantine your snakes for at least 6 months before introducing them. After that release them and hope they don't eat each other.
My point is that in order to avoid the risks of stress you have to house them in something so large that it's as if they aren't even together. And even then, you still can never take away the risk of cannibalism, spreading of disease, and unwanted breedings.
Thankyou! at least a moderate start! i question who started it but clearly i cannot end it however much i want to! and I WISH AT THIS POINT I WAS GETTING WARNINGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IT WOULD AT LEAST BE SOMETHING! THE MODS HERE ARENT THE MOST EFFICIENT ARE THEY????
MrPointyhats
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oh and starsevol you missunderstand! when i say professionals i mean highly qualified zoological scientists! not some weirdo with a shed full of rubs!...cough...nothing personal eh! fpmsl
Lennycorn
Just see the truth
Oh...I'm starting to understand now. Thanks for clearing that up.
And you're proving it so well too.
Any pics??