KJUN
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I missed that post, I guess. :shrugs:
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Signature area use - specifically, dragon images
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I missed that post, I guess. :shrugs:
snakewispera snr
The Devils Advocate
Like wise, others don't want to see it moved to the social group, for no apparent reason.... LOL.....
Though it was mentioned earlier on that it may (or may not) be slowing the site..... Thats why it was mentioned in the first place.....
Nanci
Alien Lover
For the fourth time:
And I did offer my reason for my opposition to moving the DYK thread to a social group. It doesn't flow naturally. It is uncomfortable to read in the manner social groups are set up. Do you know how many social groups I am a member of? Five. Do you know how many I EVER visit? One, but I'm having difficulty maintaining interest. It's NOT WORTH THE TROUBLE to read, the way it's set up backwards.
Besides that, no one new would ever find it! DYK gets new "posters" every day! Some stay, some move on.
Give me one example of how the DYK thread affects you which does not involve you going there and reading it. The only person who can come close is KJ, saying he's afraid people he refers to the site might find it objectionable (so they could then avoid reading it, just like I avoid reading culling threads) but it is just as likely that they could find it a lively and entertaining thread that they felt at home in and made new friends at!
And I did offer my reason for my opposition to moving the DYK thread to a social group. It doesn't flow naturally. It is uncomfortable to read in the manner social groups are set up. Do you know how many social groups I am a member of? Five. Do you know how many I EVER visit? One, but I'm having difficulty maintaining interest. It's NOT WORTH THE TROUBLE to read, the way it's set up backwards.
Besides that, no one new would ever find it! DYK gets new "posters" every day! Some stay, some move on.
Give me one example of how the DYK thread affects you which does not involve you going there and reading it. The only person who can come close is KJ, saying he's afraid people he refers to the site might find it objectionable (so they could then avoid reading it, just like I avoid reading culling threads) but it is just as likely that they could find it a lively and entertaining thread that they felt at home in and made new friends at!
snakewispera snr
The Devils Advocate
That was the main reason that I set up 18+......
But it would be churlish of me to cite that as a reason, considering I promoted an 'adult' themed thread.... LOL
snakewispera snr
The Devils Advocate
Well it sort of differed from the way I intended, but it wasn't any problem.....
Closed shop on the other hand had rules and some members couldn't get their heads around that, so when they got banned, ran to the mods about it....
That started a snowball effect so I terminated both sites.... Before RZ asked me to do it......
18+ could still be running. There's nothing stopping someone else from doing it....
jazzgeek
The Rule Of Thirds.
Likewise, I don't get the feeling "DYK" turned out quite as Toshiro envisioned....and I don't mind "DYK" at all.
Dale
vetusvates
Gamaliel's Principle
What Nanci said. In post #103...and others. And for that matter, what Dale has been saying for pages.
So, I am far from a computer geek, but how fast a page loads is determined by what is on that page...pictures, links, dragons, etc., not what is going on elsewhere on a forum. And there are Thread Display Options, like Em Wright indicated. Also, I do know enough to know that the dragon cave function does significantly slow things down. I participated once, but if terminating that function speeds things up, then I'm willing to make a CONCRETE sacrifice.
I do not see DYK as a CONCRETE issue. How people view it is still based on opinion and personal tastes....from everything I have read so far on this thread. No exceptions.
If you don't want to load DYK, then do not go there. If you don't want to read DYK, do not go there. If Elle having a Robbie bothers you, do not go there.
As for DYK, there are tons of sites, tons of forums, tons of threads, etc.,....not to my tastes,...so I do not torture myself by going there...Good Heavens, people, that does not take a genius to figure out. Or maybe it does.
So, I am far from a computer geek, but how fast a page loads is determined by what is on that page...pictures, links, dragons, etc., not what is going on elsewhere on a forum. And there are Thread Display Options, like Em Wright indicated. Also, I do know enough to know that the dragon cave function does significantly slow things down. I participated once, but if terminating that function speeds things up, then I'm willing to make a CONCRETE sacrifice.
I do not see DYK as a CONCRETE issue. How people view it is still based on opinion and personal tastes....from everything I have read so far on this thread. No exceptions.
If you don't want to load DYK, then do not go there. If you don't want to read DYK, do not go there. If Elle having a Robbie bothers you, do not go there.
As for DYK, there are tons of sites, tons of forums, tons of threads, etc.,....not to my tastes,...so I do not torture myself by going there...Good Heavens, people, that does not take a genius to figure out. Or maybe it does.
snakewispera snr
The Devils Advocate
DYK.... I don't most of the time...... Then again sometimes I think parts are pointless..... LOL
vetusvates
Gamaliel's Principle
"Thinking"....."pointless(ness)".....and "thinking something is pointless"......are all relative, a matter of opinion, and subjective things.
There is no place in wise judicious management decision-making, loosely or strictly speaking, for opinion partiality, or subjectivity.
In my job I must daily and hourly put all religious, philosophical, intellectual, political, and socio-economic "likes" and "dislikes" completely and totally aside in making wise managerial decisions. Do I smoke? No. Am I Muslim? No. Am I heterosexual? No. ......................
But do I ban all discussions of those subjects? No, I do not. No, I can not. Not at my work. And not in my own personal code of ethics.
It is my job as moderator and arbiter of my business to NEVER even let one of my clients know or discover where I stand at all on such subjects.
( I'm not jumping you, Mike, just borrowing your words because they are near. )
Darcpixie
New member
So, Rich, now that we have all removed our dragons, would it be possible to re-evaluate to see if we can have them back when the site is back to full functionality?
I can understand removing them when the dragon cave's hosting was having so many problems, but since there WERE NOT issue prior to the hosting issue, I would appreciate a second look.
WHY would I appreciate a second look? Because I find myself looking for a forum where I can use them. Which is sad.
I can understand removing them when the dragon cave's hosting was having so many problems, but since there WERE NOT issue prior to the hosting issue, I would appreciate a second look.
WHY would I appreciate a second look? Because I find myself looking for a forum where I can use them. Which is sad.
Caryl
BrightHope
Yes, what Eric said. We've digressed quite a bit from the signature graphics issues.
I've stayed off DYK because I'm one of those unimportant rural people with dial-up. When elsewhere (work, library, etc.) I checked it out occasionally and usually got a chuckle. Like KJ, some of the content has actually kept me from recommending the site to some people. As a high school teacher, I love that my classroom snakes have gotten people interested in the hobby. As a teacher, I can imagine all too well the furor that might come up if some parents went wailing to the school board that I was corrupting their child because of some inappropriate content.
Now, about those signature graphics. Surely we're all agreed that Rich is right on this one, right?
TripleMoonsExotic
I <3 Stripes!
I've never heard of the Christian Science Monitor, but I do use W3C for internet statistics. They don't, however, track connection speed.
carol
Down with the sickness
Rich doesn't need to be equitable.......lol. He just needs to do what he thinks is best for him, the site, and/or its advertisers.
FYI - I couldn't care less about the DYK thread. I am concerned about some of its CONTENT. I do have a care about saignature images in all threads, though.
Hey KJ, I do feel your pain as I am on dial up at work. The only time the dragons caused an issue was when the dragon site when down for a couple of days and I went into DYK where so many people have them. I didn't notice much of a difference in the general forum. I just thought having one would be a nice compromise.
Did you catch this thread?
http://www.cornsnakes.com/forums/showpost.php?p=827888&postcount=60
I think it's great news and should help you with your lag issues a lot.
If people can turn them off if it slows them down, why can't we keep just one or two?
snakewispera snr
The Devils Advocate
Who's the voice of reason now, Eric .
I meant pointless the same way Susan did, why would I want to know if some one is having a fag.... Whether you smoke or not, unless you can share a fag it's pointless....:grin01:
I'm not really up on 'puters. Until about 2 yrs ago, I wouldn't have believed I could have 'friends', I never met.... In the bloody States, at that....
DYK.....I got more American friends I chat with, than British mates..LOL
Witchcraft of the finest order.....:crazy01:
So fast or slow, I don't know, it just appears on my screen.....
I'm just living up to my avatar and offering options to peruse.... LOL
jpccusa
Happy with this new hobby
I was surprised to see you started your sentence with "you know" and not DYK. :sidestep:
carol
Down with the sickness
Yes, that is exactly one of the things that Rich originally said "no" to. I'm so grateful he changed his mind, I really like them. I didn't realize it was slowing other people down, but now that we know dial up users can disable them.... problem solved, win/win.
vetusvates
Gamaliel's Principle
If I am in a deep, heated, important conversation with Elle, and she's going to leave the conversation for 5-10 minutes for a cigarette,....it is very important to me. The opposite of pointless.Who's the voice of reason now, Eric .
I meant pointless the same way Susan did, why would I want to know if some one is having a fag.... Whether you smoke or not, unless you can share a fag it's pointless....:grin01:
I did not know until several years ago that during the Inquisition, the Holy Mother Church did indeed employ a "Devil's Advocate". And you engaging in that purpose is perfectly fine with me. I think you and I agree more than we disagree, anyway.