jagodzinski
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I believe those are these spring loaded fake bamboo things. They work like a tension rod, I have seen them at some Petstores before.
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Corn snake enclosures
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cinnabunbun
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That's them. Levi likes to climb, he's really active when he's not digesting. I also plan on draping a dark cloth on the back side of the tank instead of adhering a background.
jagodzinski
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nicolefowler2005
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Huh I've never seen those before but I like them!!! Does anyone know if there is a glue that you can safely use inside the viv?
Nicole
Nicole
jagodzinski
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Setup looks good - but cohabbing is generally very bad (especially when they are little). There are some threads on here you can search for as to why, but my recommendation would be to separate them ASAP.
jagodzinski
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If you want it to be permanent - you can use aquarium sealant, but I believe it takes 24+ hours to seal so snakies will need to be temporarily rehomed. And although I have never personally used it, I have read in multiple places that hot glue is safe - you could try doing a search for it.
cinnabunbun
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I got mines from LLL Reptiles for a good price. Here's an Amazon Link, https://akari.in/kKvv/e8f56b I'll be honest, they look so fake for bamboo, but as long they serve their purpose, then I'm happy. I have my plants cover them slightly.
Everyone's vivs are so pretty x-x; Hopefully mines will be able to be comfortable for my noodle!
CornySnakeUser
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How long have they been together?
Logically:
Corn snakes are most likely to each each other at birth or when introduced. However, any stress could cause hostility. If either seems aggressive, irritated or stressed, separate them ASAP. They can be very social if they choose, but separating them and then bringing them back together is a major no no. If either is acting strangely or not feeding properly, definitely separate them
Being together increases happiness and bonding, but it can also be risky. If they compete for anything, they may fight. Make sure you have two water dishes, heat sources, and etc. and feed them in two separate places.
Overall, it's a risky thing which you have to carefully watch. People who cohab don't watch for warning signs closely, as they tend to not research them closely until something goes wrong. While risky, it can also increase the lifespan, happiness, and quality of life of your pets.
axis1
Fuhgeddaboudit!!!!
Cohabitation Warning!
As someone who cohabbed my 3 adult corns for 8 years with no problems (or so I thought), I recently separated them about a week ago, on 4/24/16, as a result of feedback I received on this site and research which lead me to the following article:
http://squamishserpents.ca/care-info/can-i-keep-multiple-snakes-in-one-enclosure
I strongly recommend it, as I kept my corns co-habbed for the last year while I continued to get advice on other issues such as breeding and despite sporadically coming across info that indicated that cohabitation was probably not in my snakes best interests. I mean, my 3 adult corns were purchased as hatchings together, have lived together for 8 years, have successfully bred (I have 2 males & 1 female resulting in 3 gorgeous hatchings last summer), and are all apparently healthy! That is, until I discovered the 2 males either attempting to mate or actually fighting!
Now that they are all in their own enclosures, including the surviving hatchling who is now 9 months old (sadly, 2 others didn't survive), I have four, stress-free and hopefully happy snakes!
For those who cohab their snakes, remember that they can't tell you how they "feel." And just because 2 snakes (or 3, in my case) appear to be "cuddling," they MIGHT just be competing for the best or warmest spot in the viv! This last point made by that article was the point that won ME over, though after my 2 males were going at it, I knew there was a problem! And after 8 years, I now wonder, in retrospect, what I might have missed!
Hope this sheds some light on the issue being discussed.
As someone who cohabbed my 3 adult corns for 8 years with no problems (or so I thought), I recently separated them about a week ago, on 4/24/16, as a result of feedback I received on this site and research which lead me to the following article:
http://squamishserpents.ca/care-info/can-i-keep-multiple-snakes-in-one-enclosure
I strongly recommend it, as I kept my corns co-habbed for the last year while I continued to get advice on other issues such as breeding and despite sporadically coming across info that indicated that cohabitation was probably not in my snakes best interests. I mean, my 3 adult corns were purchased as hatchings together, have lived together for 8 years, have successfully bred (I have 2 males & 1 female resulting in 3 gorgeous hatchings last summer), and are all apparently healthy! That is, until I discovered the 2 males either attempting to mate or actually fighting!
Now that they are all in their own enclosures, including the surviving hatchling who is now 9 months old (sadly, 2 others didn't survive), I have four, stress-free and hopefully happy snakes!
For those who cohab their snakes, remember that they can't tell you how they "feel." And just because 2 snakes (or 3, in my case) appear to be "cuddling," they MIGHT just be competing for the best or warmest spot in the viv! This last point made by that article was the point that won ME over, though after my 2 males were going at it, I knew there was a problem! And after 8 years, I now wonder, in retrospect, what I might have missed!
Hope this sheds some light on the issue being discussed.
CornySnakeUser
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axis, quite frankly, if the female was the most temperamental, it may have been that the two males were just very close. I would say you did the right thing, especially if they were acting up. That article highlights some of the high risks, which usually are most immediate when they are introduced as adults. Sometimes, they might actually be "cuddling," which is a method of bonding through touch for most animal relationships. If any of your snakes seem particularly stressed after leaving the others, have them to where they can see their former cage mates, through one way glass if necessary.
axis1
Fuhgeddaboudit!!!!
CornSnakeUser:
Hello and Welcome again! My name is Monty and I live in Brooklyn.
I should preface anything else I say with the fact that I am a mental health professional who works in the area of abnormal human behavior (homo sapiens vs. pantherophis guttatus, the latter of which is the technical name for the corn snake species). My knowledge of reptiles comes from experience and reading/research. In other words, I am a self-taught herp-lover, like most here, but there are some here who care for cornsnakes with little more intensity than if it were merely a hobby and I would defer to them to translate the nuances of the characteristic & behaviors of corn snakes.
That being said, "cuddling" and social "bonding" are behaviors that are probably alien to the reptilian brain of a corn snake. While I affectionately assign my corns subjective qualities such as "cute & cuddly," I'd bet a week's salary that if a female corn didn't leave the area where she laid her clutch that she would most probably eat/devour the hatchlings once they did emerge from the shells of their eggs! (IMHO but not something I'd wanna see!)
My snakes were together for 8 years, as I previously stated. Now they can't see nor smell each other (at least, not that I am aware) but if daddio207 didn't respond to my recent inquiry in a previous thread (see "2 male corns mating? HELP!" under Breeding/Egg Production & Care), I might have NEVER looked up the article on cohabitation that I cited in my previous post.
This site has helped me more than any other source of info I have researched on corn snakes. However, all of it would be just info wasted on deaf ears if I did not have an open mind. At the end of the day, I can honestly say I believe I did the right thing by my sneaky ones!
Just sayin.
(It's all good and especially if we learn from it!)
Hello and Welcome again! My name is Monty and I live in Brooklyn.
I should preface anything else I say with the fact that I am a mental health professional who works in the area of abnormal human behavior (homo sapiens vs. pantherophis guttatus, the latter of which is the technical name for the corn snake species). My knowledge of reptiles comes from experience and reading/research. In other words, I am a self-taught herp-lover, like most here, but there are some here who care for cornsnakes with little more intensity than if it were merely a hobby and I would defer to them to translate the nuances of the characteristic & behaviors of corn snakes.
That being said, "cuddling" and social "bonding" are behaviors that are probably alien to the reptilian brain of a corn snake. While I affectionately assign my corns subjective qualities such as "cute & cuddly," I'd bet a week's salary that if a female corn didn't leave the area where she laid her clutch that she would most probably eat/devour the hatchlings once they did emerge from the shells of their eggs! (IMHO but not something I'd wanna see!)
My snakes were together for 8 years, as I previously stated. Now they can't see nor smell each other (at least, not that I am aware) but if daddio207 didn't respond to my recent inquiry in a previous thread (see "2 male corns mating? HELP!" under Breeding/Egg Production & Care), I might have NEVER looked up the article on cohabitation that I cited in my previous post.
This site has helped me more than any other source of info I have researched on corn snakes. However, all of it would be just info wasted on deaf ears if I did not have an open mind. At the end of the day, I can honestly say I believe I did the right thing by my sneaky ones!
Just sayin.
(It's all good and especially if we learn from it!)
Karl_Mcknight
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Yes Nicole, there are a lot of glues that can be used inside a cage / aquarium.
Any type of Aquarium glue or sealant can be used as well as Clear Silicone Caulking. But they require time to "Dry" or "Cure" and it can be anywhere from a few minutes to 48 hours depending on the product. So you'd have to make sure it was completely safe before reintroducing your pet.
GFvanWyk
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Seperated
OK
I have taken the knowledge of all the learned ones to hart and split the two of them. Whisper in the big house and Tequila in the small house.
Another question. I have a small chihuahua (Sam) it has a habit of sitting on the sofa, just watching the cages. Would you consider that stress full to the snakes?
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I have taken the knowledge of all the learned ones to hart and split the two of them. Whisper in the big house and Tequila in the small house.
Another question. I have a small chihuahua (Sam) it has a habit of sitting on the sofa, just watching the cages. Would you consider that stress full to the snakes?
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nicolefowler2005
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Do they say safe for animals on the package?
Nicole
Nicole
Karl_Mcknight
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it won't necessarily say that.
You can assume if it's made for aquariums then it's safe for animals. All of the Clear Silicone Caulkings are completely safe once they are cured.
You can assume if it's made for aquariums then it's safe for animals. All of the Clear Silicone Caulkings are completely safe once they are cured.
jagodzinski
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axis1
Fuhgeddaboudit!!!!
Francois:
Great idea on taking to heart what the experts here have to say on the no-no's of cohabbing. As far as your dog "watching" them, I doubt they would get stressed as long as that's all your dog does. When I was feeding one of my snakes once, however, one my kittens got by me and went right up to the tub and curiously pawed at the cover, spooking my snake who defecated as a response! Thankfully he had already swallowed his prey and didn't regurge but you see where I'm going, right?
I think we have to be ALWAYS vigilant when we own snakes AND any other animal to ensure the two NEVER have an accidental encounter, if you get my drift. I love my snakes and my cats equally and do my best 24/7 to ensure they are all happy, healthy, & safe, which entails keeping them mutually exclusive to and from each other!
Congrats again on separating your sneaky ones!
Great idea on taking to heart what the experts here have to say on the no-no's of cohabbing. As far as your dog "watching" them, I doubt they would get stressed as long as that's all your dog does. When I was feeding one of my snakes once, however, one my kittens got by me and went right up to the tub and curiously pawed at the cover, spooking my snake who defecated as a response! Thankfully he had already swallowed his prey and didn't regurge but you see where I'm going, right?
I think we have to be ALWAYS vigilant when we own snakes AND any other animal to ensure the two NEVER have an accidental encounter, if you get my drift. I love my snakes and my cats equally and do my best 24/7 to ensure they are all happy, healthy, & safe, which entails keeping them mutually exclusive to and from each other!
Congrats again on separating your sneaky ones!
jagodzinski
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GFVanWyk - I'm so glad they are seperated!
CornySnakeUser
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Once again, all intelligent species bond. As a mental health professional, you know probably better than most the curiosity a corn snake displays and the usual like of individuality and others common with curiosity. A reptilian brain is only developed by its surroundings, not just its genetics. Others can affect your personal psychology, personality, and persona a lot more than genes.
I'd recommend strongly against cohabbing, as the stress is often very great. Your two males are a prime example of this, as the two possibilities are: they are very close or they are very hostile. All contact is hard to read, and I think you did the right thing. You were very watchful for any possible signs, as all corn snake owners, especially those cohabbing snakes, should be.
axis1
Fuhgeddaboudit!!!!
CornySnakeUser:
It's comforting that you don't agree with cohabbing, but let's just agree to disagree that corn snakes have the capacity to bond. Since corns are solitary creatures, do not hunt in packs, do not care for their young in any way, only come together in the wild to mate, AND have been known to be cannabalistic, there is no biological or any other need for them to "bond." Bonding, in this case or as when we think they are "cuddling," is only something that we, as humans assign hypothetically to our pets when we see them competing for the best spot in the hide or viv. Intelligence, as it relates to reptiles, only serves them in terms of their evolution and survival. Of course, this is my opinion, but I must say that it is an informed one supported by empirical evidence.
Again, just sayin.
It's comforting that you don't agree with cohabbing, but let's just agree to disagree that corn snakes have the capacity to bond. Since corns are solitary creatures, do not hunt in packs, do not care for their young in any way, only come together in the wild to mate, AND have been known to be cannabalistic, there is no biological or any other need for them to "bond." Bonding, in this case or as when we think they are "cuddling," is only something that we, as humans assign hypothetically to our pets when we see them competing for the best spot in the hide or viv. Intelligence, as it relates to reptiles, only serves them in terms of their evolution and survival. Of course, this is my opinion, but I must say that it is an informed one supported by empirical evidence.
Again, just sayin.