DING!-DING!-DING!..............GOOD EVENING LADIES AND GENTLEMAN from the Bellagio Hotel and Casinooooo!!!!!
LLLLEETS get RRRREADY TOOOO RRRRUMMMBLEEE!!!!!!
and in THIS cornerrrrr..............the obsessed hybridizer wearing the cornsnake x thayeri x Cal. king x Imperial Pueblacorn x Hondo prrrrint trunks!!!
AAAAAND in THIS cornerrr............the logical anti-hybrid advocate representing the well-being of the herpetoculture wearing the pure WHITE trunks!
HAHAAA!!!! :roflmao::rofl::shrugs:
Those that have no point or logical ability to refute... i.e. facts... often resort to denigrating the person in order to undermine their point. The problem is attacking the character of a person is easily seen by others as simply being crass and uncooth. Your better than that Dmong.
I am looking through the information history, etc. sections that Nanci listed and while it does seem some of the morphs had at least a portion of their ancestors traced back to wild caught... it does leave much unanswered. My reason for asking how many lines of morphs can be traced back to wild caught without interruption is simply to see if there was any possibility of breeding known lines free of impure genes with any real certainty. I would have thought that with so many purists on this forum that a few more would have spoken up and stated that they have lines where the lineages of all their snakes in that line and morph can be traced back to their natural origins. This would apparently be a great selling point as many would love to have a lavender sunkissed corn where all the ancestors could be traced back to wild caught snakes. The sad fact is, not too many seem to be keen to share this information with the general public here and if it is available elsewhere... I will continue to search as not too many seem eager to share that they have such lines with morphs that all of the ancestors thereof can be traced back to wild caught origins. To me, this speaks volumes. If I had such lines I would be jumping at the chance to let others know I had them and it would be no secret, but something I would proudly shout from the roof tops. When buyers have to research to find morphs with such a lineage.... many will simply give up and buy corn snakes from their local pet store or any old breeder that may very well have introduced hybrid genes as no lineage going back to wild caught is to be found. The fact that the registry has not been around all that long does not excuse a purist from keeping accurate records going back to the wild. Allowing unknowns to creep into ones pure corn snakes, as a purist, is simply inviting hybrids into the gene pool which is what I thought made purists so unique. The purists were the few, the proud, those that cared about the integrity of their lines.... and yet I find one breeder who will proudly share her lines and no others.... It makes me go.... hmmmm.
As for the comment, Who is Nancy? If you honestly don't recognize a typo when you see it or can't infer that I mean Nanci, the one I've been thanking throughout this thread....
I get the strong feeling that accurate lineages are not too often kept by morph breeders by Airenlows comment as well.... you don't have to read too much into it as its about as plain as a chainsaw buzzing in your face.
Bottom line, if you want to claim you have pure snakes then you have to be able to trace the lineage of all your snakes back to wild caught in your lineage. If you can't do this or won't share this.... then that puts your pure snakes in question. I am beginning to understand why breeders may not want to dna test to prove parentage now.....
I like to see things from all sides and when one side does not supply the evidence I am left thinking many may be hypocrites. Surely, even if you don't have morph lines where all the ancestors can be traced back to the wild somone here must know where to get them if they exist and they are serious about keeping their gene pool pure. Now, if a certain amount of uncertainty is okay with purists then what is that % of uncertainty/impurity? I would genuinely like the answers to these questions and when they are skirted by statements such as do your homework or lets get ready to rumble we are just allowing what should be a caring intelligent sharing of information and opinions to go to pieces.
Be proud if you have pure species morphs where the entire lineage can be traced back to the wild and share them here on this thread. That is all I am asking.
I'm not asking to rumble, poke fun of, or for anyone to do any homework. I'm asking for those that are proud of their line of morphs with a proven lineage where all members can be traced back to the wild to post here so that others also interested in knowing where to attain these elusive pure corn morphs can also attain them. This is helping everyone out. The debassing another is doing nothing to help. You've made your point Dmong, you don't like me. Starsevol, it is also blatantly clear how you feel about me. I forgive you all. I would still like answers to these questions.