Update bufmotley after 1/2 year

[slangenbroed]

after 1/2 year he's looking better and better

 

[Nanci]

He looks amazing, Jan! He's "just" motley?? (And Buf). So golden!!

 

[slangenbroed]

He looks amazing, Jan! He's "just" motley?? (And Buf). So golden!!

Yes its a stunning animal, and he going better and better, i can't wait to breed more of them , i think this animal is unique, and this is how hypoerythristic looks in motley i think

Greetings

Jan

 

[slangenbroed]

Yes its a stunning animal, and he going better and better, i can't wait to breed more of them , i think this animal is unique, and this is how hypoerythristic looks in motley i think

Greetings

Jan

Here a pic from 7 mounth ago

 

[hypnoctopus]

Really rich color! Very pretty.

 

[mactopa]

Hi Jan

I do not think this Corn is only a Buf Motley. It is too bright and too yellow for this morph. especially if one compares it with the Hypo Buf be made ​​by you. http://www.cornsnakes.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=173101&stc=1&d=1372335351

I think your "mistery" buf is a Hypo Buf http://www.cornsnakes.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=173100&stc=1&d=1372334213 and this corn is a Buf Caramel Motley.

If you think Buf and Toffee are the same then you can not believe that a Buf Motley

for comparison these pics

under 6 months old Toffee Motley

more then 6 months old Toffee Motley

Caramel Toffee Striped (sorry I have it onley in Striped but I think it is the same color as Motley)

1 year old Toffee Motley

hatchling

2 years old

all pics by sabine bergmann GERMANY
and part of

 

[mactopa]

sorry I forgot we have a barrier for hotlinks :bird:

but for pic gallery Toffee Motley click here


under 6 months old Toffee Motley

 

[slangenbroed]

The bufmotley looks more towards a toffeemotley in my opinion.
Sorry i don't see the carameltoffee striped .
The mistery is not a normal hypobuf to me, there is more in the game, but what it is i dont now.It is something between hypo and buf thats for sure, buf is a hypoerythristic, and what does that with hypo ???????
Or is it the superform i realy don't now, the only thing i can tell you is that the first and last misterys died after hatching. The second one died after 8 weeks, and have never took a mice.
Here are a picture from the same clutch as the bufmotley.

Greetings

Jan

 

[slangenbroed]

This is the carameltoffestriped ?? i found him on the net with a toffeestriped

 

[slangenbroed]

This is the carameltoffestriped ?? i found him on the net with a toffeestriped

Sorry the first came out of Auratum het caramel... x the same so he must been buttertoffee

 

[slangenbroed]

all pics by sabine bergmann GERMANY
and part of

I think this is the Carameltoffee striped
even the pic link say it
Caramel-Toffee-Stripe

 

[mactopa]

I dont understand what you mean.
But it is yours you can call it like you want!

 

[slangenbroed]

I dont understand what you mean.
But it is yours you can call it like you want!

The pictures i found from the toffeemotley ore stripe and the ones from carameltoffee motley says that it is a bufmotley.But if i am wrong please correct me.

 

[mactopa]

the pictures you've found are a Caramel Toffee Striped and a Toffee Striped.
I do not know from which breeding but the the first can not from

Auratum het caramel... x the same

and you know it or do you see red eyes? I wanted to show you with the parallels that your corn is much too bright for onley Buf and Motley. you are a supporter of the theory buf and Toffee are the same But there are no Toffee Motley that looks like a Amber Motley like yours.

 

[slangenbroed]

and you know it or do you see red eyes? .

You posted this picture on the other forum, and you gave this discription:1.0 Caramel ??Toffee?? Striped
this corn looks like a amber with green spot


from auratum (amel toffee) het. caramel blood striped x same

So if its only amel and toffee then it wil be a auratum, but it doesn't look like a auratum so its posseble that there must be caramel in the game.And that makes it a Buttertoffee for me.

 

[slangenbroed]

I think this is the Carameltoffee striped
even the pic link say it
Caramel-Toffee-Stripe

I see here toffee and caramel just as i see buf and caramel in mine.

The link is http://www.farbvarianten-lexikon.de...iped&titel=Caramel-Toffee-Striped&filter=true

 

[slangenbroed]

1. Toffee blood striped from the lexicon
2. Toffee striped from anja
3. Caramel striped pos hom toffee i think this is a toffee striped if i look at the colour
4. Buf motley

In al these animals i don't see caramel, as yoy can see it in a toffeecaramel and a bufcaramel. The bufcaramel ??? is in shed so i wil make a pic right after shed.

A Toffeecaramel and a Bufcaramel looks more green to me theese animals all look brown to me.So i still hold my opinion that Toffee and Buf are the same, until otherwise is proven.

All combo's made by toffee and buf are lookelikes.

 

[slangenbroed]

Here are the animals we talking about one year back.

 

[mactopa]

you're really funny jan
you see in the striped variants that toffee caramel striped much brighter and yellowish than toffee striped is and you say in buf motley is it the other way around? So according to this theory are either all our test breedings are wrong or buf and toffee are not one and the same.

 

[slangenbroed]

you're really funny jan
you see in the striped variants that toffee caramel striped much brighter and yellowish than toffee striped is and you say in buf motley is it the other way around? So according to this theory are either all our test breedings are wrong or buf and toffee are not one and the same.

i think you dont understand the brown ones in order as given you are the buf and toffee motley.You like to want that buf and toffee are not the same you mentioned in a dif forum that noboxy wil call the toffee buf for me it doesnt matter .But it makes you blind to see the things as the are.For your info caramel is more yellow then buf ore toffee same as carameltoffee ore caramelbuf , toffee and buf are more brown look ar the pictures,!!!!!!!