Aww, glad to help! I know, my vamp was a total hit list rider, but they did an about face on the game recently...now I can't kill anything! Fortunately, I'm not TOO off balance. My points are rather evenly spread in A/D. I can understand why people are mad, though. I'll post another "pimp" thread for you tomorrow. How far under 501 are you? I have almost 700 clan, so I can put messages on game walls, too.