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Bloodred Genetics Question

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SnakeLuvrs

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We have a genetics question, this year we bred our Diffuse(male) to our Snow and got a clutch of Amels. We're not quite sure what the genetic make up of the Diffuse actually is so it was recommended to us that we keep a male and female for a breeding project in a couple of years. Now my question is would keeping a male hatchling be useless since we have the male parent? Would breeding the parent to the female hatchling yeild the same results as breeding the male and female hatchlings? Also, what typically what genetics makes up a bloodred? Below is a pic of the diffuse

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I think it wouldn't be useless because If you breed the two you keep you can probably figure out if you still get all amels and probably something new. It would be interesting to see if the two you keep would be het for anything.

Bloodred can refer to a Color or a Pattern. The Bloodred pattern is defined by a lack of belly checkering, some side coloration 'bleeding' onto the belly, and faded side blotches. the Bloodred patter is caused by a simple recessive gene and can be independent of bloodred color. Bloodred color is defined by a dark red ground color, with slightly darker red saddles. Adults may approach a solid red color. Bloodred color is not due to a simple recessive gene. there are probably many genes involved, as bloodred color is the result of line breeding.
 
Sounds like a good regurgitation from the CSMG.

You got an entire clutch of amels? How big was the clutch?

If the clutch was big (10-15), I'm gonna go with sperm retention from last year, or you slipped an amel in with that female snow by accident. The chances of 10 or 15 eggs from a bloodred (diffused) x snow breeding being ALL amels is way out there.

If that's the case, the male diffused is het for amel. If you keep amels back from that clutch and breed them together, you'll get amels, amel bloods, and snow bloods.

If you used your original male to a female, you'd get normals, bloods (diffuseds), amels, and amel bloods.

I'd keep a pair back at the very least.
 
Joejr14 said:
Sounds like a good regurgitation from the CSMG.

You got an entire clutch of amels? How big was the clutch?

If the clutch was big (10-15), I'm gonna go with sperm retention from last year, or you slipped an amel in with that female snow by accident. The chances of 10 or 15 eggs from a bloodred (diffused) x snow breeding being ALL amels is way out there.

If that's the case, the male diffused is het for amel. If you keep amels back from that clutch and breed them together, you'll get amels, amel bloods, and snow bloods.

If you used your original male to a female, you'd get normals, bloods (diffuseds), amels, and amel bloods.

I'd keep a pair back at the very least.
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Acutally the clutch was 16 eggs and two of the 16 were normals, the rest were amels.
 
Joejr14 said:
Sounds like a good regurgitation from the CSMG.

You got an entire clutch of amels? How big was the clutch?

If the clutch was big (10-15), I'm gonna go with sperm retention from last year, or you slipped an amel in with that female snow by accident. The chances of 10 or 15 eggs from a bloodred (diffused) x snow breeding being ALL amels is way out there.

If that's the case, the male diffused is het for amel. If you keep amels back from that clutch and breed them together, you'll get amels, amel bloods, and snow bloods.

If you used your original male to a female, you'd get normals, bloods (diffuseds), amels, and amel bloods.

I'd keep a pair back at the very least.
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I've haven't heard of a snow blood before...how different are they from normal snows? Any Pics?
 
Avalanche - Genotype: DdDd·aaaa·anaana
A Diffuse, Amelanistic & Anerythristic triple recessive cornsnake. aka Snow Bloodred.

Good luck finding a photo, I've been trying my best, I've at most found a photo of a hatchling Avalanche.

I'll hopefully be producing Snow Bloods in 08 :crazy02:
 
Thanks, I took a look at the pic...looks pretty nice but really hard to tell from the pic, more or less it will probably look like a blizzard depending on how diffused the saddles are....this could be an interesting clutch if we keep a couple of babies for breeding
 
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