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Both acting as males??

Silt

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I had purchased an amel and a miami phase a couple years ago from a fellow who had been cohabbing them together since they were hatchlings in a tank full of sand. :uhoh: They were on the smaller side for three year olds as he only fed them one fuzzy each every 2-4 weeks (he was "busy with university").

It was later in the evening when I brought the two home so I housed them in a temporary viv until the next day to place them in their new enclosures. About half an hour later, I checked on them and they were hooked up! It was obvious that the miami was the male. The female never did lay any eggs, so I simply assumed that her body just didn't produce any or she was infertile (an obviously less common occurrence).

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Since then, the miami has sired four clutches with one of my other females. The little bugger is also het anery!

I decided to give the girl another chance this year. She had been refusing food since late December (just started to feed again a week and a half ago)and is constantly active. Alot. For the past couple weeks, I have only seen her hide maybe a total of 8 times. She's always climbing, sitting out in the open, sitting on top of one of her hides, or curled up around her hides. :shrugs:

I placed the two together approximately a month ago, but she would have none of that. She raced around and around avoiding him.

Just today, I put them together again. The male and female were trying to climb on top of each other (playing the male role). There was a large amount of twitching and jerking from both snakes, but more-so from the amel (female). Because both of them were clambering on top, they got themselves into a twisted mess. The miami (male) tried a couple times to align their tails together, but it never worked out. The female never flagged her tail once. I heard a couple of puffing/hissing sounds towards the end of all of this, as well. Still entwined, the male started to go underneath the papertowel. The female seemed confused for a second and tried to find the male's neck & body. She eventually did. After this, it was almost as if the male was being intimidated(?) He slithered away from her and was poking at the top of the container trying to find a way out, but she was still pursueing him. I then simply separated them.

I had initally thought that the amel could possibly be a male due to the thickness of her tail before it begins to taper. I do know that tail shape is not a positive indicator of a snake's sex. Here is an added picture anyways:

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So now I'm extremely confused. The miami has to be a male as he has fathered multiple clutches, yet at the same time the amel has to be a female because the two obviously copulated previously. What would lead to such odd behavior?

Thanks so much! :)
Lisa


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The amel had a sex change, or is going through a gender identity crisis?

I would say to take the amel to a vet that knows how to sex snakes and get a straight answer. :)
 
Males can certainly mate with other males - I'd personally find out what happens if you introduce the "female" amel to a known female.
 
I read somewhere on here that males will mate with other males as a dominance display. I'd second the recommendation to put "her" in with another female to see what happens.
 
OK, thank you for all of the suggestions. I think I'll try that! :)

Thanks once again!
Lisa
 
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