creamsicle x albino motley

[dr73]

what would you get by crossing a creamsicle and an albino motley?

 

[Lore]

Creamcicle het Motley

 

[dr73]

thanks but what about the albino? would it show up at all. maybe in the f2?

 

[cka]

It would show up in the F1's. Creams get their amel gene from corns, so crossed to the amel motley would give ya amels het motley in the first generation...

 

[Ssthisto]

thanks but what about the albino? would it show up at all. maybe in the f2?

Creamsicles are albino - well, Amelanistic (otherwise, they'd be rootbeers/coppers) - so you'd automatically get 100% amelanistic offspring who, because one of their parents is a Creamsicle, would be labeled as Creamsicles.

 

[Jimmy Johnson]

problem

the problem is the use of albino...
What you would appear to mean would be amelanistic.
Amelanism is the lack of melanin (black). Amelanistic corn snakes (amels) will usually have brighter remaining colors and red eyes.
So, first you have a corn snake expressing amelanism and the motley pattern.
amel motley (what you called an albino motley)
next, a creamsicle which is a mix between a corn snake and great plains (emoryi) rat snake that is expressing amelanism.

so you breed the creamsicle (amel corn/emoryi) to the amel motley and you get amel babies het for the motley pattern.

Now, because you have emoryi (great plains rat) in the mix and they are expressing amelanism you would call these creamsicles het motley.
the name creamsicle expresses the fact that there is emoryi blood in the mix.

Extremely important to let anyone and everyone, interested in these offspring, know that there is emoryi in the mix.

 

[dr73]

Thanks everyone. I got my first corn snake 7 months ago an now i have 3. So I'm very new to all this. my albino motley was sold to me as such. but i will call her correctly from here on out. I'm years from breading but would never miss label any offspring.

 

[cka]

"Albino" has been used to describe amelanistics for awhile; people generally know what ya mean when you say you have an "albino motley corn" .

An albino snake would have no pigment, an amelanistic one just doesnt have melanin, or black pigment...

 

[Jimmy Johnson]

yep

"Albino" has been used to describe amelanistics for awhile; people generally know what ya mean when you say you have an "albino motley corn" .

An albino snake would have no pigment, an amelanistic one just doesnt have melanin, or black pigment...

People who have delt with corns for a while do know this, unfortunately some new buyers aren't aware of the difference.
The confusion can also come from the simple fact it isn't only used in conjunction with amelanism.
I have seen corns listed or labled as
albino corn
red albino corn
black albino corn
yellow albino corn
and even white albino.
so, although I might not have been quite as diplomatic as I should have been my objective was to educate not to denigrate

 

[cka]

although I might not have been quite as diplomatic as I should have been my objective was to educate not to denigrate

I'm sure no one saw it like that; I know I didn't

Getting the terms right and some basic knowledge goes a long way towards a persons enjoyment and success in the hobby :*)