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Dead in the egg

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Peter

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this next little guy was the last egg that did not pip of 14 so I cut open the egg today. He comes from a normal mom-het amel & anery, dad is amel het anery. The other 13 eggs consisted of 4 normals, 4 amels, 2 anery, and 3 snow. All of them had a regular pattern. This one has stripes and no belly checkers. Rich, Frank, Clint, Serp, anyone? What do you think?
 

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Belly shot

Here is his belly, devoid of markings. Actually I just checked and he has a few tiny check up by his neck.
 

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It looks as if they're both het stripe too, and it was simply unfortunate that the only stripe you got was dead in the egg. Sorry about your loss there!

Darin
 
Too bad.....
better luck next year and hope that next year you'll get more stripes.....
Good Luck and Happy Herping!
 
Or Maybe.........???

Another possibility may be that the egg experienced some sort of stress during the embros development that caused the striping pattern and therefore may not be a result of genetics. And therefore both parents are not het for striping.

Or you really got unlucky because all of the other hatchlings didn't obtained the striping gene from both parents.

Breeding both parents again next year should convince you of what really went on.

Frank Pinello
 
Frank

That is kind of what I was wondering, the stress thing. That pair produced 7 hatchlings last year, 1 anery, 2 normal and 4 amel, and this year 14 (counting the dead one). None with any hint of striping. What really bums me is that she laid a 2nd clutch of 15 slugs. I wish I would have bred her. I will forever wonder what those 15 could have been.:( Her first year she also laid a 2nd clutch of 6 all slugs. I'm going to make sure she is in tiptop shape for next year and see if I can't get 2 good clutches. I really don't want to stress her but I kind of feel like, "well, if she is going to lay a second anyway!" Thanks for the insight.
 
I totally agree that some form of egg stress might have caused the striping effect, and this would possibly explain the death of the hatchling too. However, what I was wondering was this: What are the odds that the egg stress would cause striping AND a plain belly? It seems to me that the combination of those two stripe/motley characteristics is just too coincidental to blame completely on egg stress. However, more breeding of the two and/or the introduction of a striped female into your collection *should* prove it one way or the other.

Good luck -- Darin
 
I hate the fact that I now have to wait another year for more "testing". I am really bumming now about that 2nd clutch of all slugs. Maybe I need to pick up a striped something or other. I do have some motley genes in my stable.
 
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