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Dread the bloodred shed

DaemoNox

Abyssus abyssum invocat
Dread shed and fed, and now a year old.

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Good looking snake. I'm confused though. What makes some bloods have next to no side pattern where as yours is very noticeable. Will yours fade out as it ages or keep the pattern?


I get confused with the bloodred/diffused/outcrossed stuff I read about these guys and since I'll be breeding het bloodreds in the next year or 2, it's probably a good thing I get some clarification.

Sorry, I don't mean to hijack your thread. If you want, we can PM so you can keep your "thread for dread".
 
I remember when you got Dread... I was SO jealous :rolleyes: :grin01:

He is a striking lad.
 
I think its easiest explained like bloodred is to diffused as candycane is to amel. Diffused is the actual morph, but add a little selective breeding for the best color and most pattern diffusion and youve got a bloodred. Hets can show a varying degree of diffused traits, some being almost like some lower grade diffused snakes. Its going to take a few years still to see how much diffusion he is going to get, but by the looks of him now he will be on the lower end of the perfect looking bloodred.

He probably wont be as nice of a blood as your that you got from VMS, but he's got the color.
 
DaemoNox said:
I think its easiest explained like bloodred is to diffused as candycane is to amel. Diffused is the actual morph, but add a little selective breeding for the best color and most pattern diffusion and youve got a bloodred. Hets can show a varying degree of diffused traits, some being almost like some lower grade diffused snakes. Its going to take a few years still to see how much diffusion he is going to get, but by the looks of him now he will be on the lower end of the perfect looking bloodred.

He probably wont be as nice of a blood as your that you got from VMS, but he's got the color.
Thanx! But actually, I got my 0.1 Lavender het Bloodred from Rich and my 1.0 Normal het Lavender/Bloodred from Dakota Corns.

Here's the Normal. No diffusion, but he definately has a good start on the belly pattern and the scream head pattern.:cheers:
 

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The 'banding' you see in your bloodred will never 'diffuse' away. You'll always be able to see that, unfortunately. I've got a female like that---color is great, but the banding is there.
 
He's brother to one in my het bloodlav pair, I'll be posting updated pictures of them too in a bit (my last sentance there was to Silentlore, I forgot to put that).
 
Joejr14 said:
The 'banding' you see in your bloodred will never 'diffuse' away. You'll always be able to see that, unfortunately. I've got a female like that---color is great, but the banding is there.

As I kind of suspected, but it gives him his own unique look, with his eyebrows.
 
DaemoNox said:
He's brother to one in my het bloodlav pair, I'll be posting updated pictures of them too in a bit (my last sentance there was to Silentlore, I forgot to put that).

I figured that... my Blood from VMS is going to be a SCREAMER! :crazy02:
 
DaemoNox, very good answer but not all true . What makes a bloodred a blood red was some selective breeding but not for pattren .It was for red color. The blood red comes from Hastings Fl. Eddie Leach hunted the corns from there because they were so red in color and breed the redist ones together for sevral generations. The diffussed gene just poped up in those corns. The reason the pattren is so subdued and the lack of side pattren is because of the normal stock from hastings. I've seen pure C.B. Hastings corns ,when I was in Jasper Co.
There was a guy that lived in Harddyville Jasper Co ,S.C. He used to live in Fl and work in and around hastings putting up and taking down billbord signs. His name is Jim Stall. When he would take down the billbord sign in Hastings He scatter them around the work site so when he would drive by or mantance the sines he would flip the sacttered signs and find corns ever once and a while. He was hopeing that one day he would find a wild bloodred or produce some from the stock he found and bred. Never happend. But I got to see some of these corns. They had hardly any contrast between the body color and saddles . they had large saddles and no side pattren. Their bellies had a row of small round dots on each side of the belly, like you see in some rosey rats from the key's.this with the diffussed gene what made a pure bloodred look like it did.
When these corns were out breed to other stock it diluted the look of the base stock. Corns with side blotches , high contrast and orange color took away from the classic bloodred apprance because the base stock was not the same any more. So what you got is a mix today and they come out looking very diffrent than the old school bloodred. Now they have to be bred for color and pattren. When out crossing bloods pick the redist animals you can find with very little contrast between body color and saddles . Large saddles will help you elimimnate the side pattren. I been looking for wild caught and northen Fl and pure southren S.C. corns with this look. I have a het blood red and his three possible het daughers that came from a pure old school blood red crossed to a pure okeetee with a subdued pattren. the mom died so this year I will be breeding them to their dad. I have one female that is 3/4 old stock. Also I might have found a guy that hunts in hastings that breed those corns to the orginal blood red strain. Lets hope, then they will be pure Hasting bloodreds.
 
He's a very pretty blood, I like how his saddles almost look banded. The head pattern is neat too. And I have to agree with everyone else, that last pic is the cutest!


Jenn
 
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