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squeebo

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hi there. im gunna do the same as everyone else and start by saying that ive only just gone and bought a snow corn snake youngster in the uk. one thing i must ask first off is what is the best temp for the little guy? ive heard around 70 all the way up to 88 . at the mo the tank on the warm side is 83 and the cool side is at 75 and im just a little worried that its to hot. i will take some pics and see if can get them on this site. thtas all for now i will write soon.
cheers guys any info will be very helpfull.
squeebo. :crazy02:
 
Hello and Welcome to the Forums!!!

Ya those temps are okay. You should buy a book on corns or get some info off the internet also.
 
Abcat1993 said:
Shouldn't you have researched that first?
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Let's calm down just a tad. 1) They never specifically said they hadn't done any research, so let's not assume too quickly. 2) The range of temps cited were acceptable. 3) The temps in the tank are perfect. 4) They're here now and can do research until their brain explodes.


83 is perfectly fine for the warm side. Anything in the low to mid 80's is good. 75 is good for the cool side. Anything down to about 70 or so is fine for the cool side.

Welcome to the site :)
 
zwyatt said:
83 is perfectly fine for the warm side. Anything in the low to mid 80's is good. 75 is good for the cool side. Anything down to about 70 or so is fine for the cool side.
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Yeah, I spent a heck of a lot of time trying to get the UTH adjusted *just so* to keep the temperature between 84.5 and 85.3. :rolleyes:

Then I came to my senses and realized that 85 on the dot was not necessary.

I hadn't realized how warm the whole enclosure gets with the UTH on (even though it's only on one side), so I haven't had any trouble keeping the cool side comfortable.

Welcome to the site :)
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Ditto.

SaulsMom
 
cheers guys thats put me at ease! i had done a little research but i just wanted to get the temp right strait away so me little fella would be comfy.
and I'm doing a lot of reading at the moment. i know I'm annoying but i have another question (sorry) i got a few branches from my back garden and oven baked them for 15 minutes at 160 deg Celsius is this OK or should i go and buy the grapevine thingies just to be sure there are no nasties hiding in the branches?
once again sorry for being dull but i want the little guy to be happy and comfy.
thanks for all the input I'm very gratefull.
squeebo.
 
What I did was I washed the branches with soap and let it soak in very hot water for a half an hour.

Im not sure If baking will work but, maybe someone else has done that or knows if that works.
 
Dave123 said:
What I did was I washed the branches with soap and let it soak in very hot water for a half an hour.

Im not sure If baking will work but, maybe someone else has done that or knows if that works.
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cheers dave i will do that and yeah i hade heard that off another site about corn snakes.
ive just put a picture up of the the little fella sorry its not very clear but all i have at the mo is me phone untill i get my camera back and ive named him kellog for now! sad i know but cant think of anything at the mo.
cheers again all.
squeebo. :shrugs:
 
SaulsMom said:
Yeah, I spent a heck of a lot of time trying to get the UTH adjusted *just so* to keep the temperature between 84.5 and 85.3. :rolleyes:

Then I came to my senses and realized that 85 on the dot was not necessary.

I hadn't realized how warm the whole enclosure gets with the UTH on (even though it's only on one side), so I haven't had any trouble keeping the cool side comfortable.


Ditto.

SaulsMom
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what is a uth? sounds like milk he he
squeebo
 
squeebo said:
cheers guys thats put me at ease! i had done a little research but i just wanted to get the temp right strait away so me little fella would be comfy.
and I'm doing a lot of reading at the moment. i know I'm annoying but i have another question (sorry) i got a few branches from my back garden and oven baked them for 15 minutes at 160 deg Celsius is this OK or should i go and buy the grapevine thingies just to be sure there are no nasties hiding in the branches?
once again sorry for being dull but i want the little guy to be happy and comfy.
thanks for all the input I'm very gratefull.
squeebo.
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You're probably okay with what you did with the branch. I know there are a lot of threads about branches and how to sterilize them (and I know I've read about baking them). Just make sure the type of tree you used doesn't produce any strong aromas or resins and you should probably be good to go.
 
squeebo said:
what is a uth? sounds like milk he he
squeebo
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Yeah, it DOES sound like milk...hee hee.

If you do a search on these forums for Under Tank Heater you'll see that most people use those as opposed to heat lamps.

Good luck w/your snaky friend.

SaulsMom
 
squeebo said:
i got a few branches from my back garden and oven baked them for 15 minutes at 160 deg Celsius is this OK or should i go and buy the grapevine thingies just to be sure there are no nasties hiding in the branches?
once again sorry for being dull but i want the little guy to be happy and comfy.
thanks for all the input I'm very gratefull.
squeebo.
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I use branches from my garden often, Ash and Birch are the best looking branches for this.
Birch is also easy to get the bark off, which is what I do with any branches I use in my viv.
I just strip off the bark, wipe the whole branch twice over with TCP (Antiseptic) and then rinse thoroughly.
I never bake them because they can burn in the oven.
But what you did was fine.

And welcome!
Enjoy your time here.
 
cheers all for the input, its helping me destress a little.
in my tank/viv iv got a uth i think but mine is in the tank and ive coverd the bottom of the tank with this like rabbit hutch stuff that is small enough so that if me little critter eats some he will just pass it through and its the stuff my pet shop gave me. will the heat pad be ok in the tank? and im also using a heat lamp whitch i turn off at night. without the lamp on in the day its a little to cold, so is this setup ok. im still trying to get all the info from this site but it takes a while as thers so much! (im not complaining, its a good thing to have so much info.)
cheers again all
squeebo
 
What exactly are you using for substrate? "Rabbit hutch stuff" could mean a million things, some of which are harmful to your snake. Many substrates will work OK, but the most often recomended one is aspen shavings. I recommend feeding outside of the viv. Swallowing substrate, even "rabbit hutch stuff" could lead to an impaction, which could be fatal for your snake.

What exactly are the temps in your viv? "A little cold" could mean a million things, most of which may not be ideal for your snake. How are you measuring your temps? If you don't have a digital thermometer with a probe, and have the probe directly on the glass over the UTH, you are probably not getting accurate temps. If you have one of those stick on thermometers, you most assuredly are not getting the readings you need to be.

I don't know if your heat mat will be ok in the viv. Is it one designed to go inside the viv? Or is it one that needs to be put on the outside? If it is one that is designed to go inside the viv, it will be ok inside the viv. If not, it needs to be removed and placed outside the viv.


I don't know if your setup is OK. We want to answer your questions, and be of help to you, but we need to know specifics. Vague phrases like "rabbit hutch stuff", and "a little cold" don't give us the information we need to make recommendations and suggestions.
 
hi again all.
all i can tell you is what was in the tank when i had it it was a second hand but i did clean it properly. the tank came with a heat pad which says habistat 12v and also come with the rabbit hutch stuff and a heat light.
he didn't tell me what wattage the lamp is or wether it was an outside uth or inside one, and he told me that the substrate would be fine. sorry i cant be more specific but I'm still new to all this.
cheers all
squeebo
 
OK, that isn't a problem. I suggest you ditch the rabbit hutch stuff and get something that you know what it is. The most often recommended substrate is aspen, and other herpers that are in the UK will be able to tell you where you can get it.

As for your temperature questions, the snake needs a warm side and a cool side. The warm side should be around 85, and the cool side around 75. The most important piece of equipment you need is a good quality digital thermometer with a probe. Most hardware or garden stores will have them, and they aren't too expensive. It doesn't need to be something specific for reptiles. I use regular indoor/outdoor ones. Put the UTH under the tank, since you don't know if it's OK to use inside. Better safe than sorry. Then put your probe directly on the glass over where the UTH is. Make sure your unit is set to outdoor, since this will tell you what the probe is reading. This is the temp that you want to be 85. If it reads much more than this--and it likely will--you will need to put a thermostat or rheostat on your UTH to control your temperature.

You don't really need the heat lamp, because snakes don't need UV light like other reptiles. If your room is very cold, you may want to put it on the cool side to get it to the proper temps, but if you do, you will need a thermostat or rheostat to regulate it also.

You do have hides in there, don't you? If not, you need at least two. One for the warm side and one for the cool side. I usually put on in the middle as well. And of course, a water bowl and a secure, preferably locking, top. These are the basics you need to properly house a corn snake.

Anything else you need to know, don't hesitate to ask.
 
YOu can get a digital thermometer/hygrometer with probe from Maplins for around £20, if there isn't a branch near you they sell online too
 
wicked guys im working on that now and getting a digital thermoeter to make sure and my uth is now under the tank
 
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