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hey there . ok archangel the non feeder ate 2 pinkies today. the last time i fed him i had to force feed and i noticed that he was swollowing instead of regurging it ( big improvement) so i way thinking maybe he'll eat. so i put him in a paper bag and open it 5 mins later gone!!!. threw another in a lot smaller(i looked like a pre-mi) n 5 mins gone!!. ok my normal p/h bloodred i had to open its mouth and it would bite and swallow on its own but never strikes. so today i got a tweezer and dangled the pinkie and it struck and ate !!!! so gambit had his first live pinkie ( it was for the normal but she didn't take it) he love it he responds way better to them than frozen or it seems like it maybe if i dangle the frozen he'll respond the same. well next week ill know. so for those who have stubborn feeders don't give up( i was gonna cull archangel..) but patience paid off... thanks for reading i hope it made you hopeful that your non feeder will eat.. :santa: :crazy02: