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How does your corn grow?

Kellogg Cornsnake

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At the last reptile show in March I purchased 100 fuzzies from Rodent Pro. and my amel has been eating those with amazing results, she gains 5 to 6 grams with each feeding. She has done so well that when I weighed her she was at 121grams and I decided to switch her to weanlings and jump her to every 7 day feedings. She had been taking a hopper and a fuzzy for every 5 days. She is 30" in length, now my okeetee is a yearling and is at 18 or 19" in length and has been feeding off of large pinkies from Big Cheese every 5 days and I don't see much of a growth at all. I tried to give her 2 pinks and that did fine for a bit and one morning I discovered she had regurged one pink. So did the protocol and all was great again, since then I have only gave one pink every 5 days. She gains weight nothing like my amel, and I realize that each snake is different in growth. Here is a weight chart that I have for her.

5/12/08 24g
5/17/08 26g after regurge
5/22/08 27g
6/2/08 28g after shed
6/7/08 29g
6/12/08 29g
6/17/08 31g
6/23/08 32g wow 2 grams!
6/28/08 34g
7/3/08 35g
7/9/08 35g

Just would like some thoughts if it could be the mice purchased from Big Cheese, or a combo of mice and her simply growing slower. I'm going to a reptile show this Sunday in KS and will be picking up my mice and rats from Rodent Pro at the show. I purchased her 100 peach fuzzies and will monitor her growth from these mice to see if there is any difference with growth.

I look forward to read posts from everyone ! Again I appreciate thoughts and guidence.
 
Growth rates can be a very individual thing in Corns.

The same feeding regime can produce vastly different results in Corns that are apparently the same to start with. I think it depends whether they're from a bloodline that grows quickly or slowly. Whether the breeder initially power-fed also seems to have a bearing. Hatchlings that I've bought from power-feeders have piled on the weight much faster than contemporaries bought from people who had a more standard breeding regime.

As long as both of yours are eating what's offered and appear healthy, I'd say all is well.
 
I had thoughts that my amel is from a bloodline that is perhaps the word is "stronger" as she does pile the weight on. And after the lil okeetee did the one regurge I was desperate to get her back on track as I felt she really didn't have much reserve to loose; so I'm extremely thankful she is and has been back on track. I had heard things such as corns grow better with certain rodent vendors and had wondered what the reputation for Big Cheese was. I certainly agree with you as long as they take the offerings and no regurges occur than all is wonderful. I appreciate your thoughts and guidence. Thankyou !
 
I weigh my hatchlings monthly, just before the first feed of that month, as any more frequently showed too much variation from whether they'd pooped or not!
 
I don't think you'll find it the mice, but simply the corn. My Ultramel is up to 198 grams and the Anery Motley, who I got about the same time is only 168. They get mice from the same source, fed on the same day, same size. She just packs the weight on faster.

I have a 07 that was 6grams when I bought hin in Dec and he's only 10 grams as of last Friday. He eats great, food from the same source, although not the same size... just isn't packing on the weight like the rest. :headbang: Me, I wouldn't be looking a gift horse in the mouth, just be happy they are packing it on :D :D :D
 
now my okeetee is a yearling and is at 18 or 19" in length and has been feeding off of large pinkies from Big Cheese every 5 days and I don't see much of a growth at all. I tried to give her 2 pinks and that did fine for a bit and one morning I discovered she had regurged one pink. So did the protocol and all was great again, since then I have only gave one pink every 5 days.

The Okeetee should be handling two fuzzies or even single small hoppers at 18 inches.
Why she is regurgitating with larger meals is an issue that needs to be resolved. Maybe she doesn't like her temps, doesn't like her hides, or has an internal parasite infestation. If she is where cats, larger snakes, etc. can see her - she may be scared.

Really try to get her on fuzzies, that in my experience is when the growth explosions happen. Next time she goes in blue, don't feed until after shed and then try a single smaller fuzzy, and see what happens.

And get a fecal float done to rule out the parasites.
 
The Okeetee should be handling two fuzzies or even single small hoppers at 18 inches.
Why she is regurgitating with larger meals is an issue that needs to be resolved. Maybe she doesn't like her temps, doesn't like her hides, or has an internal parasite infestation. If she is where cats, larger snakes, etc. can see her - she may be scared.

Really try to get her on fuzzies, that in my experience is when the growth explosions happen. Next time she goes in blue, don't feed until after shed and then try a single smaller fuzzy, and see what happens.

And get a fecal float done to rule out the parasites.


| don't care how long the snake is, I'd be more interested in how much the snake weighs. Gunn is almost 16" long, but only weighs in at 10grams. I promise you that he could not handle a fuzzy, no matter how I might wish it.

I would be hardpressed to give anything to the snake that might encourage another regurge. My guy couldn't handle a pinkie every four days. So he puts on weight a little slower... it's really no big deal as long as he keeps eating.
 
The Okeetee should be handling two fuzzies or even single small hoppers at 18 inches.
Why she is regurgitating with larger meals is an issue that needs to be resolved. Maybe she doesn't like her temps, doesn't like her hides, or has an internal parasite infestation. If she is where cats, larger snakes, etc. can see her - she may be scared.

Really try to get her on fuzzies, that in my experience is when the growth explosions happen. Next time she goes in blue, don't feed until after shed and then try a single smaller fuzzy, and see what happens.

And get a fecal float done to rule out the parasites.


Not to step on any toes or anything, but I thought prey size ratio was done in accordance to the width of the snake rather than the length. I have a baby I just got from the SD show and she's about 17in but clearly can't take anything bigger than a small to normal sized pink.
 
Come to think of it, when I placed the amel on fuzzies I do remember her really putting on the weight. So perhaps there is a valid point there. I purchased peach fuzzies for the next few months and we'll see what happens. I do believe a gradual growth is best and not an accelerated growth. I look forward to see her change over the next few months. I have only had my amel for 7 months and she has really changed so much since that time. Again I want to thank everyone for the replies.
 
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